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re: Trump: H1B necessary because Americans lack talent

Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:56 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:56 am to
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Love flooding skilled jobs with cheap immigrant labor while deporting people who build houses and grow food


Trumps loyalty is to Billionaires and Massive corporations, not small business.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120154 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:57 am to
No, not really.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4045 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:59 am to
At this point, the “muh illegal” falls flat.

The Trump administration has thumbed its nose up at “the law” because they can get away with it. No one gives a shite about the law anymore and it’s time to stop pretending you do.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:00 am to
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Trump has totally abandoned the youth of America.


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:01 am to
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SDVTiger will be here any second to clear things up


Just like you can always be counted on for a TDS melt.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86100 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:02 am to
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Why should it be?

That’s not fake news. That’s a straight up F You to his entire base.

He really messed up badly and doesn’t seem to have any idea how that type of message is going to be received when the economy is still garbage, the white collar job market is garbage and the GOP Congress has done exactly zero again with full control of the government.


It doesn't help that some element of MAGA will give him a pass on this.

Trump may become increasingly immune to the sentiments of his supporters at this point. But they need to make him feel this one. And, while I think JD has much more ideological kinship with us on this, it's not good precedent for future MAGA-ish leaders to look the other way.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:02 am to
Well, that settles it then... No one can argue with Dominic Michael Tripi.

They got him. Going to throw my MAGA hat in the trash tonight... It's over, boys.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:04 am to
The panicans are strong in this thread... Yikes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297484 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:05 am to
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The panicans


This is the quickest method of identifying the MAGA cult.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101578 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:06 am to
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Trump is and always been, a phony and an opportunist. He will make public statements that are obviously untrue but are accepted by his followers. When it ultimately is demonstrated
that he is full of shite, those same followers will shrug it off. All they care about is owning the libs, reality be damned…


Trumps base calls him out a TON.

Its happening in this thread from over a dozen longtime supporters. Its happened several times in this first 10 months, in fact. Theres a literal revolt going on now - read the replies on Don Jr's X feed for example.

He often hears our anger and course corrects. I actually predict it will happen here.

You would never acknowledge that we frequently get pissed at him - that doesn't fit your smug narrative.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:07 am to
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He has lost touch with his base and keeps doubling down on stupid. We are all just about done with him

I don’t expect midterms to be kind to the GOP


Oh sure sure... Just vote for the Leftist commie mulims instead. That will work out great!
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
861 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:10 am to
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All of us take price into consideration, why is it bad when a business does it?


I'm not saying that it is wrong for a business to manage their labor costs.

What I am saying is that it is intellectually dishonest to put out this propaganda that American workers are not talented in the tech and engineering fields, when there are entire news articles that show that this model is not working, and that it is ultimately costing businesses more money in the long run to try to H1B their way to profitability.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:12 am to
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I'm a Trump supporter.

But that interview with Laura was awful. Honestly one of his worst moments ever.

He will double down I'm sure but that was a big miss



Contrary to all the TDS nerds that are obsessed with their hatred of the man from the time they wake up, until they go to sleep every night, my support for Trump does not mean I agree with him on everything or support everything he does.

I disagree with Trump on this issue, for sure. But still, given any other alternatives on the Democrat or Republican side (aside from Vance, Rubio or DeSantis) I would still vote for him again without question and I sure as frick would vote Republican over ANY Democrat.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26302 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:12 am to
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The US’ is behind virtually every country in Eastern Asia and Western Europe in math achievement scores. What further proof do you need? You have a problem with reality. Why do you think a lot NP’s are seeing more patients now? We are falling behind in the medical field as well


Even assuming your premise is true (Indian schools are superior to American schools) the issue is that indian schools teach to the test. Their education js geared around passing tests, not being productive knowledge mavens in their field. Also cheating on these tests is very rampant

Its why most of them end up being horrible workers. Because all of their supposedly superior indian education was all about passing a test. In the real world where problem solving is how you are productive they are horrible since they have been programmed to only be able to think on rails. When things go off the rails... they are useless
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:14 am to
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Bring on the commies


At least guys like Mamdani won’t kiss Israel arse so that’s a breath of fresh air


Yes yes... I'd much rather the muslim America hating, terrorist supporting commie who kisses Afghanistan and Pakistan's assess. Fer sure.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:14 am to
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The US’ is behind virtually every country in Eastern Asia and Western Europe in math achievement scores.


We just have a lot more of an underclass.

Our top talent is as good/better than anyone else.

MAGA's policies want to coddle that underclass and devolve the rest of America's economy and SOL to protect them.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170751 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:15 am to
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He aint wrong with our education system

At the University level our education system is the envy of the entire world

Try again
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:15 am to
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Please shut your mouth, delete your account, and leave our fricking country you filthy neocon trash.


Calm down, bro.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:16 am to
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I agree that we have problems in the US. I just don't think cheap Indian labor is the solution.


Agreed. And it sure as hell isn't America First.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466948 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:16 am to
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Even assuming your premise is true (Indian schools are superior to American schools) the issue is that indian schools teach to the test. Their education js geared around passing tests, not being productive knowledge mavens in their field. Also cheating on these tests is very rampant

Its why most of them end up being horrible workers. Because all of their supposedly superior indian education was all about passing a test. In the real world where problem solving is how you are productive they are horrible since they have been programmed to only be able to think on rails. When things go off the rails... they are useless


This is actually applicable with multiple countries in Asia who are still educating kids in a Confucian-style setting based around rote memorization. The way we teach kids involves developing a much stronger abstract reasoning component and problem solving, which is why our university system is unmatched. That rote memorization stuff becomes less important when thinking becomes important and we fly past everybody then.
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