re: Trump gives "alternative facts" again- Philly Murder rate "terribly increasing"

That's what I thought. It got added in to defend an argument.

The murder rate in Philly is up 25000% from 1916 levels

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quote: What are the consequences here? insulting the entire police force protecting him while he said it starting a rift with the administration of Philly those may seem petty to some here, and are minor in the grand scheme of things but my point was Trump needs to learn to read a few notes, take some counsel before he speaks. I watched a pundit tonite that had worked thru three admins and he mentioned that all three wanted to say things at times they just couldnt because of they understood the ramifications.

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This. All day and night . Unfortunately only a select few here will admit that . Many will continue to rationalize any and every Miisstatement that he makes.

And some will create threads all of their own to rationalize any misstatements that he has made

New Pres actually gives a crap about black lives and still gets crap about it from the BLM folks..pitiful

Yes cause I'm sure that's what he meant.
LMAO.
Continue to cherry pick

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“Here in Philadelphia, the murder rate has been steady. I mean... just terribly increasing,”

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That was more incoherent than lying IMO. @real had just stated that the murder rate in the 30 largest cities has increased by 14% in the last year (true or false - I dunno), then he tried to make it specific by mentioning Philly since that's where he was, perhaps visibly realized that it didn't support his overall point, went back to it ("just terribly increasing"), and segued into Chicago, which does support his thesis.

Are you married to Megan Matt?

This is exactly what I was thinking. I honestly don't think he was talking about Philadelphia, specifically, when he said "terribly increasing." I think his sentence was just fragmented.

Let me see if I got this right. Obama began this term in office in Jan '13 (same month black lives matter was formed). Using the Philly police numbers, '13 had 246 murders. Obamas term ended post '16, which had 277 murders (in '15 there were 280). So if my math is correct that's an increase of close to 15%.

Now you may not consider 15% 'terribly increasing', but when its a bad thing for someone, 15% is 'terrible'

Now looking at Jan '17, compared to Jan '16, the murder rate is up 37%. So whether you want to look at a year to year trend, or a 4 year trend, murder rates are up 15-37% since the month BLM was formed

So you can choose whatever adjective you want to go with increasing, but increasing at a double digit pace = No Bueno. And could easily be defined as terribly increasing

Oh, and FYI, terribly means: fearfully, frightfully, appallingly, dire, horribly. So yeah, it fits in this scenario

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