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re: TRUMP FULLY ACQUITTED

Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:18 pm to
Pencilneck thinking he can take on the dersh
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:18 pm to
Schiff is up again day scared.
Posted by MFn GIMP
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:18 pm to
Where did Dershowitz say that intent had nothing to with this issue? Did I black out for a minute and miss that?
Posted by IT_Dawg
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:19 pm to
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Is there a transcript of questions?


It's basically a question by Dems to the House Managers that set up tee balls to answer the same shite we have heard for months and a chance to argue Prez answers and the same with Reps questions.
Posted by TigerTailsSoup
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:19 pm to
this great they have schiff spun up
Posted by tommy2tone1999
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
SchifferBrains trying to twist the logic again.
Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
Shitt is doing parody again
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
Wow Schiff appealing to Romney.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
Schiff with another parody.
Posted by Themole
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
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What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?


Sorry, but that question peeked my interest: the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:20 pm to
Schiff once again mischaracterizing the phone call
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:21 pm to
They need to let dershowitz come back and destroy him.
Posted by Carville
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:21 pm to
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This woman is an idiot. Somehow Trump harmed Ukraine by eventually giving them aid that Obama refused to give. Sh even brought up that we promised it to them in 2014, when Obama was President.
Demings didn't answer the second part of the question.
Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:21 pm to
I didn't follow his logic and I'm pretty bright.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:21 pm to
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2:10 PM: Cruz asks if, as a matter of law, it matters if there was a quid pro quo and whether it is common in foreign policy.

Dershowitz says the only thing that would make a quid pro quo unlawful is if the “quo” was something that was illegal.

2:07 PM: Leahy asks House managers to respond to Trump’s claim that he has treated Ukraine more favorably than his predecessors.

Demings, stumbling a bit, is having trouble responding to a question from a Democrat that there was no harm, no foul. She ultimately says Trump undercut Ukraine’s ability to negotiate with Russia and “there was harm and there was foul.”

2:02 PM: Next question (from Kennedy) to both parties is why did the House managers not challenge Trump’s executive privilege/immunity arguments.

Jeffries claims Trump didn’t raise the executive privilege argument and instead made a “blanket defiance” argument. Philbin says it is “incorrect” that there was no case law from the White House. He cites his presentation in which he put up slides of all of the letters from the White House counsel/OMB/State Department re: invalid subpoenas. Philbin says Schiff never corrected/challenged in court.

1:55 PM: Shaheen asks if a president doesn’t commit a crime, can a president be impeached for abuses of power like ordering an opponent’s taxes to be audit.

Garcia says the short answer is a president can be impeached without statutory crimes. She cites Nixon/Clinton impeachment proceedings. She say a majority of impeachments in the House have included charges that were not statutory crimes. Seems like she had a pre-written response to the question.

1:50 PM: Next question is from Lee, who asks the president’s counsel if it is the president’s place to conduct foreign policy.

Philbin says it is definitely the president’s place to set foreign policy and the Constitution vests the entire authority in the president. He says the president is elected by the people every four years and that’s what gives the president “democratic legitimacy” to have broad executive powers. He says if staffers disagree with him, that does not mean the president is doing something wrong. Philbin says this is important because the House managers are trying to impeach Trump on “some subjective motive” and are trying to prove their case by comparing what Trump wanted to do with what the career bureaucrats wanted. Philbin hammering that House managers are trying to get Trump removed based on “policy differences.”

1:45 PM: Feinstein asks the House managers if it is true, as Trump’s lawyers have stated, that there is no evidence that Trump linked security assistance to any investigation.

Crow says there is overwhelming evidence Trump withheld military aid for personal benefit. Crow says Messrs. Sondland, Pence, Pompeo also were aware of the “conditionality of the aid.”

1:40 PM: Blackburn, Cramer, Lee, Loeffler, McSally ask the president’s counsel if the standard for impeachment in the House is a lower threshold to meet than the standard for conviction in the Senate and whether the House managers have met the evidentiary standard for removal.

Philbin says an impeachment is simply an accusation so the House does not have to adhere to the same standard the Senate must have. He says it is definitely a lower standard than the standard that must be met at a trial. He says there doesn’t need to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt for the House to vote on impeachment. Philbin says in the Senate, the House managers must show proof beyond a reasonable doubt and “they have failed.”

1:35 PM: In response to a question about whether House Managers asked Bolton to testify, Schiff says: “Of course the answer is yes.” Schiff says Bolton refused. Schiff says

1:29 PM: Next up is Thune with a question for the president’s counsel. He wants them to respond to the arguments and assertions the House managers just made in response to the previous question.

Philbin says Schiff suggested that there is no evidence that Trump was interested in burden-sharing because he didn’t raise it in the phone call with Sondland that was overheard. Philbin says the transcript and emails show Trump was concerned about burden-sharing. He notes Trump told Zelensky that Merkel’s Germany was not doing as much as the United States and Zelensky agreed with him on the call.

1:22 PM: Schumer asks the House managers about Bolton’s forthcoming book. He asks if there is any way for the Senate to render a verdict without seeing the relevant documentary evidence and without hearing from Bolton/Mulvaney.

Schiff says “the short answer is no” and there is no way to have a fair trial without witnesses. Schiff says if there is any question about Trump’s motivations, it is necessary to call Bolton.
Schiff for brains currently nervously speaking in fake riddles.

Now you are all caught up.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

This woman is an idiot. Somehow Trump harmed Ukraine by eventually giving them aid that Obama refused to give. Sh even brought up that we promised it to them in 2014, when Obama was President.


She is a special kind of dumb. Obama watched Putin’s tanks roll into Ukraine, but nope, Trump is responsible for Ukrainian deaths now by threatening to withhold aid.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:24 pm to
The obstruction of congress article is such a piece of shite, it really should tank the entire thing. So absurd.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166703 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:24 pm to
Grassley question

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Sorry, but that question peeked my interest: the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour.


Based on this new evidence Trump should definitely be acquitted.
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