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re: Trump economy combines policies that create an interesting experiment

Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5769 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:46 pm to
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They cut the deficit by 600 billion


When?
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
20294 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 12:46 pm to
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They’re actually going very heavy into nuclear.. unfortunately it takes a while to get going. But they’re putting a ton of resources into it

Really hope this is true, would love to read more about this.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12199 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:39 pm to


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$2.0 trillion dollar deficit


we lost the battle as classic economists years ago.

Is debt as a percentage of GDP growing? Is the economy growing? Are real age is growing? These are the questions that matter now, fortunately or unfortunately...

Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21484 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:27 pm to
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So, you voted for slow jobs growth, high unemployment, a weak economy, high groceries prices, Higher prices for healthcare?.... Cool


Grocery prices were high already.
The health-care cost is soley on the Dems.
The economy is doing better.
Job growth will be much improved in the near future.

Trumps been in office less than a year goofy. It doesn't matter how great Trump does, TDS addled minds like urs are incapable of seeing it.
Sit back and watch the magic son!

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This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:33 pm to
what a dumbarse, do you even know what quantitative tightening and easier are?

The fed this month announced 40 billion in easing, before that.....

quote:

The Federal Reserve reduced its balance sheet by approximately $2.4 trillion through quantitative tightening (QT) over the previous four years. The QT program officially began in June 2022 and concluded in December 2025.


Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7938 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:36 pm to
A government can wreck an economy in months, but fixing it takes years. Unfortunately, we never give any policy that kind of time. Election cycles and voter mood swings guarantee that whatever starts under one administration gets reversed by the next.

So even if Trump’s policies work, we’ll only ever see the opening act before he loses the House, gets buried in investigations, and the media cycle takes over. Then a Democrat wins, reverses everything by executive order, gets two years before Congress flips, and nothing sticks. Rinse and repeat.

At this point it barely matters who’s right. We are not running economic policy, we’re running a loop.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:38 pm to
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- Tariffs were/are a tax on American consumers


another dumbarse statement. We are collecting over 30 billion monthly.....and inflation is decreasing.......because foreign companies are discounting their goods so their importers can pay the tariffs.....this has been repeated by several foreign companies in their quarterly reports.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 5:53 pm to
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Energy production is a disaster.


We are producing more oil and gas that ever. We have re energized atomic energy.......and canceled several offshore windfarms.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10393 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:01 pm to
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These numbers mean nothing when you are running a $2.0 trillion dollar deficit


Is that from the CBO numbers that based the deficit on an underperforming economy? What is the revised estimate factoring in the GDP growth?

When the BBB was passed, many people pointed out how the tax breaks marked down as expenses and poor forecasting misrepresented the actual cost of the bill. Now that we know that is without a doubt true due to the GDP, it doesn't make sense to keep running with an inaccurate number.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:02 pm to
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3 International capital investment / equity firms (i.e. Blackrock) are basically buying up America. That's NOT "investment", it's piracy of the USA.



Blackrock is a US multinational company. The money they are "investing" are US citizens 401Ks and Pensions, you do realize this dont you?????

Do you get your economic news from the View?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:05 pm to
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This is worthless unless we heavily shift to nuclear, but the boomers are scared of it because soviets couldn't boil water 40 years ago


Now that we got you tree huggin youngins out of the way, boomers are bringing nuclear back.....and just canceled 5 of your off shore don quixote windmill projects
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
1826 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:09 pm to
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jobs are going to USnative born workers, not immigrants


I agree with your primisis but disagree a bit. Why are importing so many H-1B's?

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Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18813 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:14 pm to
According to Pew Research and BLS own surveys, over 1.2 million foreign workers in the US have lost jobs.

You have to rethink the way you look at job growth while the surge of deportations occurs.

Remember those millions of illegals with bogus SS#, they were/are in the workforce. As they are removed it will hurt overall job numbers.

Which means when they were added and we still had little growth during biden.......Americans were losing millions of jobs.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53843 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:21 pm to
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high groceries prices


They’re insanely expensive. Much cheaper to eat out these days than it is to eat at home.


It's just me and the wife at home now and we spend around $700-800/month on groceries. We eat out approximately 4-5 times/month which costs roughly $300/month.......let's take a look at your assertion.

We spend $700-800 for 25 days of meals which is around $30 dollars/day for two people plus $300 for eating out = approximately $1000/month.

Eating out every day.... we would spend well over $1500-2000/month.

Much cheaper to prepare your own meals and in reality if we ate all of our leftovers and didn't eat out at all we could easily get by on $700-800/month for food.
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