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Trump deserves rich criticism for this tariff decision, it's not free Market conservatism
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:17 pm
Senator sasse understands
Sen. @BenSasse (R-Neb.) on the Trump Tariff: "Here's something Rs used to understand: Tariffs are taxes on families. Moms & dads shopping on a budget for a new washing machine will pay for this, not big companies. You don't fix 8 years of bad energy policy with bad trade policy."
For you people who claim this helps jobs here: what about the jobs that will be lost because families buying appliances will have less disposable income due to higher prices? Every extra dollar they are forced to spend on a washing machine is a dollar they cannot spend buying a microwave or a grill for their backyard
That costs us jobs
This is a crappy policy decision you'd expect from new deal era democrat
Sen. @BenSasse (R-Neb.) on the Trump Tariff: "Here's something Rs used to understand: Tariffs are taxes on families. Moms & dads shopping on a budget for a new washing machine will pay for this, not big companies. You don't fix 8 years of bad energy policy with bad trade policy."
For you people who claim this helps jobs here: what about the jobs that will be lost because families buying appliances will have less disposable income due to higher prices? Every extra dollar they are forced to spend on a washing machine is a dollar they cannot spend buying a microwave or a grill for their backyard
That costs us jobs
This is a crappy policy decision you'd expect from new deal era democrat
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm
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Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trumps smarter than Sasse 
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
it's not free Market conservatism
And Trumps not a free market conservative. So why is this surprising?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
recriprical tarriff, i am fine with.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to Walkthedawg
BTW- the american south historically has been harmed very badly by tariffs
Southern farmers were forced to buy higher priced farming equipment from northern firms than from cheaper British suppliers
Maybe you guys should remember what your ancestors stood for: they hated tariffs
Southern farmers were forced to buy higher priced farming equipment from northern firms than from cheaper British suppliers
Maybe you guys should remember what your ancestors stood for: they hated tariffs
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Shut up and get a job.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yep, one of the issues I opposed him on. Still do.
Oh, wait... "MOVE TO CHINA THEN!"
Oh, wait... "MOVE TO CHINA THEN!"
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's not an optimal move. Trump's overall policies and tenure in the WH have also been the most conservative of any president since Reagan. You have to take the good with the bad.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Fortunately, corporate tax rates were just slashed bigly and companies can now afford to produce here in the states, resulting in the creation of many high paying jobs for all Americans!
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I agree. I voted for Trump but he wasn't my 1st or 2nd choice. I'm not a fan of protectionism. Ultimately we are the ones that pay.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
As soon as we repeal FLSA, Taft-Harltey, and OSHA (or impose these standards in every other competing country), and also get rid of administrative regulations impacting our ability to manufacture here, we can look at a free market solution to this particular problem.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What you don't understand is there is no such thing as a free market when China is involved because they make markets with their centralized economic directives
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Here's some light reading on the background of Trump's decision.
The U.S. International Trade Commission finds that surging imports of large residential washing machines harmed domestic producers
And here's an article on why we have anti dumping laws, in case you've never taken an economics class. LINK
The U.S. International Trade Commission finds that surging imports of large residential washing machines harmed domestic producers
And here's an article on why we have anti dumping laws, in case you've never taken an economics class. LINK
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't like it.
But it really only affect high end manufacturers. It really isn't going to affect China much at all.
And for the consumer, the tariff is cut almost in half by the 30% federal rebate.
Plus the tariff reduces each year.
But it really only affect high end manufacturers. It really isn't going to affect China much at all.
And for the consumer, the tariff is cut almost in half by the 30% federal rebate.
Plus the tariff reduces each year.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm to narddogg81
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What you don't understand is there is no such thing as a free market when China is involved because they make markets with their centralized economic directives
Y'all realize this isn't just with China, right?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Maybe you guys should remember what your ancestors stood for: they hated tariffs
Wait, that doesn't make sense. The party of Lincoln was tariff imposer in chief. Agreeing with tariff imposition is historically consistent.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
A) It's a negotiating tactic by Trump and you're not looking at the bigger picture. This is the opening salvo, not the end decision.
B) Trump has to keep some promises along these lines to blue collar / manufacturing workers in Rust Belt states. These are the very people who elected him. So far he's given them TPP cancelation, Paris Accord withdrawal*, and some tough talk / tariffs against competing foreign countries.
There are a lot of swing state Senate seats up for grabs in 10 months. This is smart politics by Trump. By the way, none of these things are irreversible. It's just good politics.
B) Trump has to keep some promises along these lines to blue collar / manufacturing workers in Rust Belt states. These are the very people who elected him. So far he's given them TPP cancelation, Paris Accord withdrawal*, and some tough talk / tariffs against competing foreign countries.
There are a lot of swing state Senate seats up for grabs in 10 months. This is smart politics by Trump. By the way, none of these things are irreversible. It's just good politics.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Trump deserves rich criticism for this tariff decision, it's not free Market conservatism by HailHailtoMichigan!
I have been against Trump on the tariff issue from day one.
I'm not saying that tariffs are 100% off limits. But, in general, against them.
Now, I suppose as a negotiating tactic, they might serve some purpose.
So, guess we'll see.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The cult is going to call you a cuck
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm not a big fan of tariffs in general, but I do find it funny how the solar industry now wants to moan and groan about government intervention. Their existence in this country is off the backs of government incentives.
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