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re: Trump deserves rich criticism for this tariff decision, it's not free Market conservatism
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump has some very left wing trade policy views. No surprise that the only time Peter Navarro ran for office was as a Democrat.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Once again, the consumers take the hit.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:45 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
I disagree with the tariffs.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:47 pm to NIH
When Trump chose his cabinet, the picks I really hated were Ross, Lighthizer, and Navarro.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What Sasse seems to not grasp is this will not be a permanent situation. Likely to last a few weeks or less.
What is long lasting is to continue to allow China to unfairly tax our goods while we continue to do nothing. The result is we sell less stuff to China and it costs jobs here in the US. Not sure this pussy Sasse understands what the problem is right now. He seems as fricking stupid as Pelosi.
The basic problem we have in government these days is none of them seem to understand fair trade. This is a huge problem folks.
What is long lasting is to continue to allow China to unfairly tax our goods while we continue to do nothing. The result is we sell less stuff to China and it costs jobs here in the US. Not sure this pussy Sasse understands what the problem is right now. He seems as fricking stupid as Pelosi.
The basic problem we have in government these days is none of them seem to understand fair trade. This is a huge problem folks.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:50 pm to Tridentds
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"fair trade"
Leftist talking point
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:51 pm to Tridentds
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What Sasse seems to not grasp is this will not be a permanent situation. Likely to last a few weeks or less.
It is currently set up to last several years, with the tariff reducing after each year
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 3:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Another thread where the free market zealots criticize the president for enforcing our free trade deals.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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For you people who claim this helps jobs here: what about the jobs that will be lost because families buying appliances will have less disposable income due to higher prices?
Do Toyotas built here have higher sticker prices?
Do BMWs?
Would you be better off with a BMW built in Germany and sold here at the same price as one which could have been built by American workers in Spartanburg?
This is about manufacturing location. It is identical in premise to what many of our international competitors do to US exports.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:31 pm to NC_Tigah
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This is about manufacturing location.
I don't know all of details of the tariff, but with regards to the washing machines, its all probably overblown in the press.
Large appliances to be sold in the US are in the long run going to be made in either the US or Mexico.
At the end of the day, they're all essentially empty boxes. That low density means that trans-pacific shipping costs overwhelm the lower labor costs.
Hell, a Chinese manufacturer, Haier, even makes full size fridges in the US.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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BTW- the american south historically has been harmed very badly by tariffs
Southern farmers were forced to buy higher priced farming equipment from northern firms than from cheaper British suppliers
Maybe you guys should remember what your ancestors stood for: they hated tariffs
So because certain tariffs at one time over 100 years ago negatively impacted people who lived in the region I currently live, I should therefore view this tariff as bad?
There's an ideological argument to be made against tariffs. This is not a good one.
Also, my "ancestors" in the South stood for a lot of things. Should we extrapolate that logic?
Where did Republicans stand on tariffs back in those times? Since I'm also a Republican, should I be for them then? Or does my Southern heritage trump my affiliation with the Republican Party position from over 100 years ago? Or maybe it's a stupid way to make a persuasive argument...
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
you have to pick your battles.
Reagan did the same thing when he saved Harley Davidson
Reagan did the same thing when he saved Harley Davidson
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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BTW- the american south historically has been harmed very badly by tariffs
You don't say?
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:52 pm to Tridentds
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continue to allow China to unfairly tax our goods while we continue to do nothing
Read this out loud and tell me that it doesn't sound absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:53 pm to Walkthedawg
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Trumps smarter than Sasse
This x1000 and all he does is prove over and over again he knows how to run a business better than a bunch of lawyers. Shut up, lets see what happens because we know POTUS isn't afraid to shake things up. Idiots...
ETA: Btw that is meant for the press not yelling at yall I just think he has earned the right to do things his way, if it is bad for the people, I believe he will change it.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:57 pm to culsutiger
quote:The details are that Trump wants the machines built in the US.
I don't know all of details of the tariff
Posted on 1/23/18 at 4:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't know enough about those markets. I bet sasse doesn't either.
Go free market until somebody fricks with us, don't know if they did.
Go free market until somebody fricks with us, don't know if they did.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
America First.
True in both cases of illegals and washing machines.
True in both cases of illegals and washing machines.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The free market ends at a nation's borders. Beyond that is only national security and national interest.
Posted on 1/23/18 at 5:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Governing as if it’s a free market, when it isn’t is not helpful.
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