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Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:56 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
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There wasn’t time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked.
Yes, thus endeth the argument
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:57 pm to Morpheus
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Not sure exactly sure, but what I do understand is that the President needs to have a clear understanding of whom he is pardoning is the idea behind it.
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and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:59 pm to SalE
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Drain their financial resources, make them waste time .. give them anguish and sleepless nights.
Bingo we have a winner...
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:02 pm to Morpheus
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Autopen can’t be used for pardons.
Care to explain why?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:02 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I really wish he's stop this kind of stuff unless is merely doing it for effect.
So you would prefer that he let traitors like Adam Schiff & Liz Cheney get away scot free for helping provide narrative & lawfare cover for their part in overthrowing a duly-elected government as demonstrated by the entrapment operation at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 - especially if he has evidence not publicly available yet that their pardons were illegitimate?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:04 pm to VoxDawg
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So you would prefer that he let traitors like Adam Schiff & Liz Cheney get away scot free
He was out-maneuvered. It's better to admit he can't do anything here (legally) and focus on other issues
...
like not approving spending at Biden levels
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narrative & lawfare cover for their part in overthrowing a duly-elected government as demonstrated by the entrapment operation at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021
As always :
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especially if he has evidence not publicly available yet t
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:44 pm to udtiger
... if the WH can prove the anomaly, this may very well open the door to the discrepancies of the 2020 election. The scrubbing of meta data such used with Guccifer 2.0 and the DNC hack.
You remember that one???
Could be there is new tech out there to really dig into that one now
... and people who know how to dig ...
LINK
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:47 pm to bayou2
Kraken unleashed
coming soon
promise
coming soon
promise
Posted on 3/17/25 at 1:47 pm to bayou2
A lot more eyes would be opened by the truth about who killed Seth Rich than the truth about who killed JFK/RFK/MLK.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:09 pm to VoxDawg
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the truth about who killed Seth Rich
... great hero ...
one of the three amigos
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's better to admit he can't do anything here (legally) and focus on other issues
OK.
Just let past crimes go.
No consequences for the criminals.
Spoken like a true scum "lawyer"
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He was out-maneuvered.
The same way he was out-maneuvered by the judge that told him to return the criminals to the US?
It’s premature to beat your little liberal chest. Let’s see what happens before you gloat for team groomer.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:32 pm to blueboxer1119
A little history about the AutoPen's use in Presidential authority...
Bonus: The 2013 National Defense Authorization Act was where the previously-defeated Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 was relocated for surreptitious approval among more important concerns.
For those unfamiliar, it's the legislation that effectively legalized the use of propaganda in domestic "journalism". From Grok:
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Bonus: The 2013 National Defense Authorization Act was where the previously-defeated Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 was relocated for surreptitious approval among more important concerns.
For those unfamiliar, it's the legislation that effectively legalized the use of propaganda in domestic "journalism". From Grok:
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A key feature of the original Smith-Mundt Act was a restriction that prohibited the domestic dissemination of materials intended for foreign audiences. This was meant to ensure that U.S. government propaganda efforts were directed outward and not used to influence American citizens. However, this restriction was significantly altered by the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, passed as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2013. The amendment, effective July 2, 2013, lifted the domestic dissemination ban, allowing materials produced by the State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (now the U.S. Agency for Global Media) to be made available within the U.S. upon request.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:37 pm to VoxDawg
This is true. So what?
What is the relevance to the current situation.
Nothing in the Constitution requires a pardon to even be in writing. Only that the President offers it and its accepted
What is the relevance to the current situation.
Nothing in the Constitution requires a pardon to even be in writing. Only that the President offers it and its accepted
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:42 pm to ksayetiger
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OK.
Just let past crimes go.
No consequences for the criminals.
The pardon did that.
Why marginalize yourself and look like a crazy person only to end up back at "the pardon did that"? What do you gain?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
So what offence was Hunter Biden pardoned for? It's not such a stretch to demand that those offenses be specified. Pre-emptive pardons are one thing but blanket pardons for unnamed offences are clearly not what the Founders intended.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:48 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:How is that proven legally?
t's not that an autopen was used, it's that an autopen was used without his awareness that seems to be the issue.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
As much as I don't want to agree with SFP, this is the correct answer:
The president has the power to pardon whether-or-not the document is signed with an auto pen. Claiming otherwise is silly.
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He was out-maneuvered. It's better to admit he can't do anything here (legally) and focus on other issues
The president has the power to pardon whether-or-not the document is signed with an auto pen. Claiming otherwise is silly.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:51 pm to Fun Bunch
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What part of the constitution says this
We’ve been told by one side for years that machine guns and large capacity magazines weren’t included in the constitution and the 2nd amendment should be limited to muskets.
Now that same side says that an autopen is ok for signing official documents.
(Note: I actually agree that auto pen should hold the same weight as a wet signature as long as it is authorized by the president)
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