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re: Trump administration proposes sending food directly to low-income families

Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Are you unaware that the federal government already has a system in place that delivers to every address in the country daily and that such a system would not need to be created from scratch?



You mean the money hole that is constantly used as an example of why the government can't do shite right?
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:13 pm to
frick wal mart and Coca Cola
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:14 pm to
So much winning
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Are you unaware that the federal government already has a system in place that delivers to every address in the country daily and that such a system would not need to be created from scratch?
That's a single leg of the logistics chain, and one which is incredibly unsuited to large-scale deliveries of perishable goods (which is why Amazon is doing more and more of its own logistics after the Whole Foods acquisition).
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Does said system have the existing capacity to manage an influx of 1000's and 1000's of pounds of (assumedly) non-perishable food items and maintain their current level of productivity?

It's an efficient system, right? And increasing its funding to increase capacity should be a simple exercise.




Ahh, but that isn't creating from scratch, now is it? And because it isn't, the original point was actually responsive and this one isn't at all.
Posted by Marlbud
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:14 pm to
Big Red Cola going out of business.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:15 pm to
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How about enforcing what is allowable for purchase?
Anything with a nutrition label IE Monster, Snickers, Five Hour energy.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:15 pm to
All BS aside, I agree.

Define approved foods, code them at the store level and block any purchases outside of that on the card.

ID every card user or no purchase.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:16 pm to



WOW AMEN AMEN AMEN

Been saying this, we need to get rid of food stamps and EBT cards
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:16 pm to
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You mean the money hole that is constantly used as an example of why the government can't do shite right?


Ok, so you don't want to use the postal service (even though the point is you wouldn't be "starting from scratch"). No one is married to using the postal service. There are a bunch of other systems that can be utilized. Or, you could be like Balty and insist they go to pick up their parcel. Plenty of models. Glad you like the idea, though, that's the key.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39458 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:17 pm to
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That's a single leg of the logistics chain, and one which is incredibly unsuited to large-scale deliveries of perishable goods


I don't think anyone is suggesting a 20lb sack of rice and a live pig here. You are probably looking at something non perishable and compact like an MRE - but I still thing card and food coding is the way to go.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25098 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Define approved foods, code them at the store level and block any purchases outside of that on the card.

ID every card user or no purchase.



Federalizing grocery stores and conscripting them to do the governments enforcement. That's much easier than just giving people food which is an impossible challenge, apparently.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:18 pm to
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CNN told me trump hates poor people and wants to deport them to shite hole countries


no they didnt liar
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:18 pm to
I like it.

Let walmart/amazon/costco etc fight for the business.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16224 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:19 pm to
This will likely kill hundreds of millions of Americans. Very concerning.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:19 pm to
It would immediately be labeled racist even though that makes no sense whatsoever.

"You expect us to cook! That's racist!"
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57681 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:20 pm to
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The fraud doesn't really occur with teh end users, it occurs with vendors that accept EBT cards. That's where the crack down should focus, but the poor are the lower hanging fruit.


Lolololol.

So you’re saying that the people selling their food stamps for half price aren’t committing fraud? Am I reading that right?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13537 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Been saying this, we need to get rid of food stamps and EBT cards




I have thought this for years. I think the best solution would be "hotels" where people who need a place to live can stay. Cafeteria downstairs. Security to keep people who dont live there out.

Drug testing for all residents.

Maybe space for job training, medical clinics etc.

Im ok for helping someone who needs it but it should be spartan and for only a short period of time.

Screw those assholes who are 65 years old and never had a job.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3955 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:21 pm to
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This will likely kill hundreds of millions of Americans. Very concerning.



I'm literally shaking right now
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39458 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:21 pm to
eh, you are over simplifying things.

Either you are getting the government into the food production and distribution game (and exposing them to a tremendous amount of legal liability), or you just use modern tech to limit what people can buy from their local grocer with the ebt card.
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