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re: Trump administration contends it has no duty to return illegally deported man to US
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
just like slow ho pro, he's gone jethrine he aint coming back and you can eat schit, would you like some mayonnaise with that schit sandwich. the hills you never trumps choose to die on amazes me.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:56 pm to dickkellog
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the hills you never trumps choose to die on amazes me.
Our rights and the rule of law is kind of important.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:56 pm to Hateradedrink
I’m glad Gaetz isn’t in government.
You’re still stuck simping for a dirty El Salvadoran.
You’re still stuck simping for a dirty El Salvadoran.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:an illegal alien was sent home
Why would that distinction matter if the underlying action is illegal?
said alien was identified as a member of a gang that is a terrorist organization
Get back to me when a US citizen is involved - it makes a big difference
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:58 pm to dcbl
Ackshually, that’s irrelevant. Because the Poliboard has taken a position. Ergo, SFP must take the opposing position.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:58 pm to TrueTiger
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As long as that someone is not a citizen.
and now we are back to the 5th and 14th amendments. If that was the case then the President wouldn't have needed to use the AEA to deport the Venezuelans.
I think the thing you need to understand is that my position isn't one of defending illegal aliens, it's defending all people of their right to due process of law. This man's family states he wasnt a member of MS-13 and that he had asylum. It should be up to the prosecution to make the case that he was in fact apart of MS-13. If that happens, then by all means ship him out. but when you just go deporting whomever without reason, it sets a bad standard.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:00 pm to the808bass
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You’ve become a propaganda mouthpiece. I don’t really see why.
Propaganda implies falsity. You can't point to anything I said that was incorrect.
I think all illegals should be deported. So, I don't know for what side you think I am a mouthpiece.
I think it diminishes a great nation when the government ignores its own laws to achieve that goal. I remember...and respect...your observation that the law doesn't matter so much...you have to pick a side.
So, obviously, we have a difference of opinion. To maintain the integrity of the Government following the law, I think deporting Abrego-Garcia legally (just move to dissolve the hold order) would have been worth the effort, and would have made his deportation to El Salvador legal.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:00 pm to dcbl
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so, you are incorrect about the “citizen” part - American citizens are not subjected to this
However, the rest? Sure, and that is a good thing!
The clear message is DO NOT COME HERE ILLEGALLY
Personally, I am on board with this being the message - it’s long overdue
With the AEA citizens are subject to it.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:00 pm to GamecockUltimate
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that my position isn't one of defending illegal aliens
Your position is anti Trump. Full stop.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:01 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Propaganda implies falsity. You can't point to anything I said that was incorrect.
Bro. You copy pastaed a puff piece on his family lineage. Grow up.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:01 pm to SDVTiger
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Are you still trying to defend MS13 gang members and their "rights"?
how do you know he was MS13 if he wasnt allowed due process. That is all that I am defending. That right to due process to make sure we arent making a mistake. It shouldn't be hard if it was the case.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:01 pm to bhtigerfan
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Like someone in the Trump administration said today (It may have been Miller), “The gang that was persecuting him has been abolished, so he no longer has any reason to fear them, therefore he doesn’t need asylum.”
ms-13 has been abolished in el salvador?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:02 pm to dcbl
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Get back to me when a US citizen is involved - it makes a big difference
In terms of what happened, why would citizenship matter?
They illegally removed him. If they did this to a citizen, it's not more illegal.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:04 pm to GamecockUltimate
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With the AEA citizens are subject to it.
SHHHHHHHHHHH
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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why would citizenship matter?
Because a citizen, not an illegal with an order of deportation, might be a slightly different case. Certainly from an ethical standpoint.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:05 pm to GamecockUltimate
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how do you know he was MS13 if he wasnt allowed due process.
No one needed to prove he was MS13 to deport him. He was ordered deported.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:06 pm to dickkellog
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the hills you never trumps choose to die on amazes me.
This gets so tedious. In terms of voting, I have been an ALWAYS Trump. From a policy perspective, I support everything he's done in his Second Term (hated Operation Warp Speed).
I just think it's worth our Government following the law...even when it comes to deporting illegal aliens. Just so we're clear, you think TRUMP has has anything to do with Abrego-Garcia’s particular deportation?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:07 pm to the808bass
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Because a citizen, not an illegal with an order of deportation, might be a slightly different case.
In terms of the argument being made, it is not. Literally.
If the illegality at the outset doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter across the board.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. Our rights and the Constitution/rule of law.
So yes you are defending Ms13 gang members
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:09 pm to GamecockUltimate
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how do you know he was MS13 if he wasnt allowed due process. That is all that I am defending. That right to due process to make sure we arent making a mistake. It shouldn't be hard if it was the case.
He was an illegal who was ordered to be deported to his home cpuntry
What fricking rights or due process does he have. None
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