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re: Trump administration contends it has no duty to return illegally deported man to US

Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:21 pm to
I vacillate in defense of the blowback. I don’t pretend to not understand it.

In the end, the blowback more often ends up with guillotines and platitudes playing as oratory. The former being more horrifying than the latter.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:22 pm to
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What a crock of shite


Take it up with the Supreme Court.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:25 pm to
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Why does he get a pass, but the DOJ doesnt?


When the Left manipulates the system to get to a desired outcome, they’re just being smart. When the Right does it, they’re subverting the rule of law.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:53 pm to
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it's defending all people of their right to due process of law.


In my view it is all people who are citizens.

Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:35 am to
Appreciate that.

So, to be clear, the Solicitor General did not state the removal was in error.

But, the SG did use a Declaration from the ICE Field Office Director that stated it was a mistake to deport Garcia to Ele Salvador.
Posted by Tigergreg
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:39 am to
Maybe we need to send in Seal Team 6 to extract this hero.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:49 am to
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So, to be clear, the Solicitor General did not state the removal was in error.


He clearly did.

Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:52 am to
Again, thanks.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:58 am to
So, I think there is a good deal to like about Steven Miller, but he is lying to us when he says there was no deportation error here and that such a story was put out there due to a rogue attorney in DOJ.

I am tired of being lied to.

It was clear Garcia had a deportation order. Also clear there was an order prohibiting the gov't from deporting Garcia to El Salvador.
I thought, perhaps, the Admin was using some AEA strategy or something to claim it was not an error to deport him to El Salvador - but that is obviously not the case.
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 9:01 am
Posted by jawnybnsc
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:07 am to
That withhold order is inoperable for all of the reasons that Miller, Rubio, Bondi and Bukele gave yesterday. Either you didn't hear what they said, you didn't understand what they said, or you're being absurd in your denial of the clear meaning of what they said.
Posted by jawnybnsc
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:10 am to
Read the next clause in that sentence and then read the next sentence.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:10 am to
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That withhold order is inoperable for all of the reasons that Miller, Rubio, Bondi and Bukele gave yesterday. Either you didn't hear what they said, you didn't understand what they said, or you're being absurd in your denial of the clear meaning of what they said.

Can you state the reasons the order was "inoperable"?

And why is the Solicitor General of the United States saying the deportation was a mistake?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:13 am to
Matt Taibbi's site has been doing some pretty thorough timelines on current hot topics. It's a good way to go back and figure out how we got here.
LINK
Posted by jawnybnsc
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:15 am to
You can't read?
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:15 am to
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Can you state the reasons the order was "inoperable"?


Because he’s not and never been a citizen and he can be deported for many different reasons.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:17 am to
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You can't read?


Read what??????
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5874 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:19 am to
The court document that was posted just above your post. The transcript of the joint PC with Bukele. Why do I have to do your homework? Do you normally choose ignorance?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:19 am to
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Because he’s not and never been a citizen and he can be deported for many different reasons.


That does not answer the question.

Why was the judicial Oder forbidding deportation to El Salvador not valid? The Solicitor General has seemingly made it clear it was a valid order. Why is he wrong?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5874 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:21 am to
No . . . it was not a valid order and the reason is in the next sentence of the pleading.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:22 am to
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The court document that was posted just above your post. The transcript of the joint PC with Bukele. Why do I have to do your homework? Do you normally choose ignorance?


My bad. i did not realize you were retarded.

The Solicitor General said deportation to El Salvador was a mistake. Yet you claim the Withhold Order was "inoperable."
I will believe the Solicitor General.
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