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re: True or false: Justice is dead until Christ’s second coming.

Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:35 am to
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The writings of Paul are a huge part of the New Testament, how many times does he mention or even imply that he knows about the virgin birth? Now who is dumb?



That's a hard up fallacy.


I know about things I never write about.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:41 am to
I'm not saying there isn't punishment. Hell is a real thing. Thing is though, when we come here to this world we are doing so in a contract with ourselves. Our higher selves. That already lives in heaven. You hear about all this stuff about how when you get to heaven all the people you love are there waiting for you. That's true. Even the people who are still alive on Earth. It's because we exist in both places.

We come here with jobs to do or lessons to learn. We agree to the terms before we come. And "hell" is a period of reflection between lives. If you've lived a shitty life, you're really not going to like this reflection period. Because you will relive every bad decision you've ever made and feel it from the perspective of the people who it affected negatively - all at once. And when I say "feel it", I mean you will feel it - as if it happened to you.

All the whole you are existing in a plane that is outside the confines of time. There is no eternity in hell because time isn't even a thing in heaven.

But from an outsider looking in, imagine a long line of souls making their way down a hallway and some diverting into a room. Inside this room is hell. But also imagine that same line making it's way back into the hallway and continuing on their way to their next lives.

The ones that don't go into the room have transcended this plane like Jesus did. Eventually though we will all end up back in heaven.

And then it's time to restart the simulation.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:41 am to
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My argument comes from personal experience and from studying more than just the Bible. As I said, "the Christians have this wrong." Meaning I'm not looking at it from a Christian perspective. Quoting the Bible isn't going to change my opinion.



Love you man, but it's not the "Bible" and other writings.

If the Bible has verses that are at odds with your thoughts, then it's not the Bible that's wrong.
Posted by BoarEd
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:46 am to
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Love you man, but it's not the "Bible" and other writings


I mean other people who have described the experiences. And also the thoughts of other cultures on the matter. And my own personal experiences.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christianity. I mean, the church? Yeah. But the teachings? No.

I'm just saying it's not the only source of information on the matter of hell.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:48 am to
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I'm not saying there isn't punishment. Hell is a real thing. Thing is though, when we come here to this world we are doing so in a contract with ourselves. Our higher selves. That already lives in heaven. You hear about all this stuff about how when you get to heaven all the people you love are there waiting for you. That's true. Even the people who are still alive on Earth. It's because we exist in both places.


Sounds like new age hippy dippy bologna to me. You're not playing a sitar are you?

Look, you can choose to believe that nonsense or you can believe the Bible. One of us will be right. My trust is in the God of the Bible and the saving grace of his son.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:52 am to
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Wrong! You're simple mind can't grasp certain understandings such as the Trinity but any limitations Jesus had while on earth was in his capacity as solely the second person of the Godhead and he had temporarily emptied himself of certain diety aspects while on earth.
Jesus as a man was not omniscient. God didn't clone Himself to become Jesus, but rather He gave Himself as Jesus many human limitations. Jesus demonstrably accessed power many times through prayer and God. And if you say He was omniscient as Jesus, then you're also calling Him a liar.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:53 am to
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Sounds like new age hippy dippy bologna to me. You're not playing a sitar are you?



Hey, you can go frick yourself, a-hole. I have stated clearly and multiple times now that the teachings of Christianity are valid and I simply have a difference of opinion.

I did not belittle your beliefs. Be kind enough to show me the same courtesy, "Christian". In quotes because I'm quite sure you're violating the foundation of Christian law itself by not treating me the same as you would wish to be treated. In fact, I went out of my way to respect your beliefs and you insult me in return.

This is why so many people bag on you "Christians." You're fricking phony.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:58 am to
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. I have stated clearly and multiple times now that the teachings of Christianity are valid and I simply have a difference of opinion.


These two positions are unreconcilable.

You are teaching damnable heresy. And while it may be your experience, it is wrong, a situation I can relate to until recently. Do you think a fortune teller with a familiar spirit has any less of a personal experience? She is also wrong. If you want the Christian response, listen carefully: Repent of your unbelief and accept Jesus Christ or die in your sins. People reject Christ because they reject truth. That is your choice. Don't blame others.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:59 am to
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And while it may be your experience, it is wrong,


We're done.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:00 am to
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We're done.

We'll see.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/2/22 at 11:15 am to
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My argument comes from personal experience and from studying more than just the Bible. As I said, "the Christians have this wrong." Meaning I'm not looking at it from a Christian perspective. Quoting the Bible isn't going to change my opinion.
I’ll pray for your repentance and trust in Jesus Christ, then.
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