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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:10 pm to DaleDenton
Hard to disagree with your logic. Admittedly, I was projecting. I’m a little fired up. A victory high, if you will. Perhaps they were aware that birds of a feather flock together- hence, states rights. The closer we get to square one- the better off we are.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:11 pm to RebelExpress38
Well, there has been several religions during the existence of humans on this planet who have seen human sacrifice as being morally just and necessary.
RVW isn't a moral issue, it isn't a privacy issue, it isn't an equal rights issue these issues have been attached to it to drive emotional responses which leads to irrational reactions to the subject.
Yes the federal government would love to restrict the rights of the states granted in the constitution. There had already been one bloody war fought over this issue. But again we must try to attach moral issues to the event to avoid having the real conversation of what started it.
Politicians always want more power, not less.
RVW isn't a moral issue, it isn't a privacy issue, it isn't an equal rights issue these issues have been attached to it to drive emotional responses which leads to irrational reactions to the subject.
Yes the federal government would love to restrict the rights of the states granted in the constitution. There had already been one bloody war fought over this issue. But again we must try to attach moral issues to the event to avoid having the real conversation of what started it.
Politicians always want more power, not less.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:11 pm to Malik Agar
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Who gives a shite what most people want? 2+2=4 no matter what a bunch of uninformed morons want it to be. The Constitution as it's written now doesn't protect abortion and there's nothing anyone can do to change that fact.
Agreed. Our constitution is largely a list of exceptions to majority rules, so unless it's to such an extent that they could amend the constitution it doesn't really matter.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:37 pm to DaleDenton
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But again we must try to attach moral issues to the event to avoid having the real conversation of what started it.
please don’t tell me you believe all morality is subjective Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:38 pm to RebelExpress38
I'm saying it is being used as a diversion tactic from both sides. It was great for fundraising for a long time.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 pm to tiger91
I think most people are okay with extremely limited abortion. The problem is democrats took that shite way too far
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 pm to Malik Agar
I guess I was just more surprised at it being more than 60% pet “their pool” in favor of abortion. Most that I know are NOT
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:44 pm to RebelExpress38
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This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:48 pm to DaleDenton
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I'm saying it is being used as a diversion tactic from both sides. It was great for fundraising for a long time.
Two things can be true at once. There can be opportunistic politicians who latch on to issues they don’t really care about at the same time an important issue needs to be addressed with our society.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:49 pm to TigerIron
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Most Americans don't endorse an absolutist position on this.
I guess that depends on which “most Americans” you know.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:51 pm to CPTDCKHD
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This post was edited on 8/26/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:53 pm to RebelExpress38
Both sides had 50 years to pass a federal law. That would have sufficed, I'll ignore the "constitutional right" bs they've been spewing.
Neither side pass the needed legislation on this issue, why?
It wasnt really about the issue they portrayed or they were ok with legislation being effectively being issued from the bench.
Neither side pass the needed legislation on this issue, why?
It wasnt really about the issue they portrayed or they were ok with legislation being effectively being issued from the bench.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:58 pm to DaleDenton
Only one side claimed they had a constitutional right to abortion. They made it up out of thin air. Nothing in the constitution mentions abortion, and that is all the court said today. Abortion is going back to the states like it was handled before Roe.
Only one side legislated from the bench on this issue. I’m not sure why you are trying to paint the right as equally at fault for this mess.
The whole reason this came up is because republicans passed state laws. I’m really not sure what argument you are trying to make
Only one side legislated from the bench on this issue. I’m not sure why you are trying to paint the right as equally at fault for this mess.
The whole reason this came up is because republicans passed state laws. I’m really not sure what argument you are trying to make
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:02 pm to TigerIron
If there’s inconclusive evidence, then why make the statement? All’s I’m sayin, is that most Americans I know - don’t. And, that most who do, are likely surrounded by those who do. No beef here baw.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:04 pm to RebelExpress38
If it wasn't truly a state issue, the house, senate, and POTUS could have signed into federal law either way for or against during any of the 49 sessions that have occurred since the ruling was handed down in RVW.
They didn't.
Today one side is all bent out of shape because the states are again left to decide.
They didn't.
Today one side is all bent out of shape because the states are again left to decide.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:15 am to tiger91
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True or False: Americans want their own state to set abortion policy?
FIFY
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:27 am to tiger91
This isn’t about abortion. This is about the SCOTUS legislating from the bench.
Congesss or States could pass laws on abortion tomorrow and unless they’re unconstitutional in some other regard they’ll hold up based on my reading of the ruling.
Do people want unelected judges deciding things or the legislative process which at least in theory, represents the will of the people?
Congesss or States could pass laws on abortion tomorrow and unless they’re unconstitutional in some other regard they’ll hold up based on my reading of the ruling.
Do people want unelected judges deciding things or the legislative process which at least in theory, represents the will of the people?
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