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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize

Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:42 pm to
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The issues a CEO of a major hospital has to deal with would make your head spin.
You assume a great deal.


How many 100+ employee companies have you had total responsibility?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2587 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:42 pm to
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You assume a great deal.


Then enlighten me.

Imagine being the CEO of UMC and now having to figure out how to comply with the NLRA and Louisiana’s right-to-work, all while keeping continuity of care going strong and not bankrupting the hospital.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50580 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:42 pm to
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Actually they wouldn’t. I review medical records and emergency room records as part of my job. It’s not rocket science.
looking at a report and providing care are not the same.

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Most younger people are lazy and don’t want to work anymore,
tell me you’re a boomer without telling me you’re a boomer.

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But many mediocre people are more than happy to work as nurses and have plenty of time off to enjoy their life.
just not many enough.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:44 pm to
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You assume a great deal.


Then enlighten me.


Youre wasting time.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124723 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Weird youre the first person to mention critical care.
It's a nursing field. It is a black and white, specific comparison. I could have chosen Peds, NICU, cardiac surgery, cath lab, rehab ... what's weird?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10156 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:45 pm to
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What the frick do you think CEOs do?

It's hard to tell.

Ours is never in his office...or the building...for that matter.

Maybe we should both be paid based on time actually at work.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2587 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:46 pm to
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looking at a report and providing care are not the same.


Patient presents complaining of back pain. The ED nurse triages the patient, gives her an aspirin, and sends her home with instructions to follow-up with her PCP. My head is spinning due to the complexity. Clearly the ED nurse deserves a 7-figure salary.

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tell me you’re a boomer without telling me you’re a boomer.


I was born when George H.W. Bush was president. I’m included as a member of this lost generation.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50580 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:47 pm to
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How many 100+ employee companies have you had total responsibility?


Probably the same number you have.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:47 pm to
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It's a nursing field.


One of many. Not every nurse is in CC.

My ex is a pediatric nurse. I wouldnt do it. But she loves it.

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:47 pm to
We’re not talking about specialization. Those people don’t want a union because their skill sets are already valued highly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:47 pm to
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Probably the same number you have.



You would be wrong.

But youre not management material.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Those people don’t want a union because their skill sets are already valued highly.


Exactly.

It benefits the enterprising NOT to be tied to a union. You can do much better on your own.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6609 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Reduce barriers to entry, voila.


There it is everyone. Just stop requiring education and competency lmao. You are probably the type to eat up clickbait articles about “healthcare errors” too.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10156 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Responsible for delivering the best quality of patient care

Wait?? Is that the first responsibility of the CEO?

Would that be the same CEO that's cuts staff to unsafe patient/nurse ratios?

That's some funny shite right there.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:50 pm to
Unions served a purpose at one time, but today they only serve to punish the haves for the benefit of the have nots.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50580 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Patient presents complaining of back pain. The ED nurse triages the patient, gives her an aspirin, and sends her home with instructions to follow-up with her PCP. My head is spinning due to the complexity. Clearly the ED nurse deserves a 7-figure salary.


You believe this is indicative of most nurse/patient interactions?
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3633 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:51 pm to
So for those of you that work or have worked for a union based system, are you required to be part of the union? My wife voted against the union but it obviously still passed. Is she required to participate and pay union dues?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124723 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Imagine being the CEO of UMC

Now imagine the CEO of UMC, bringing marginal locums RNs into the system during and after CV19. Imagine him remunerating those temps at higher income than established employees in order to attain "workforce flexibility". Imaging that decision causing the system to hemorrhage irreplaceable RNs, and pushing remaining RNs to unionize.

Imagine that same fool attempting to run another business that way.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Patient presents complaining of back pain. The ED nurse triages the patient, gives her an aspirin, and sends her home with instructions to follow-up with her PCP. My head is spinning due to the complexity.




You couldn’t do that bro!
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32527 posts
Posted on 12/10/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Even hospitals without a CEO have acting CEOs.
Yep, I was one once (actually Interim Hospital Director). We took it over trying to drag it out of a ditch.
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