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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:56 pm to the808bass
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:56 pm to the808bass
quote:Oops!
If those evil bureaucrats don’t want to hire nurses, why do they keep offering incentives to new hires?
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:33 pm to the808bass
$20,000 signing bonus sounds good but they don’t allow hourly Tik Tok breaks. It’s about safety not money bro
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:37 pm to Nynna11
Stop trying to be a victim
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:39 pm to 4cubbies
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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quote:I’m sure it’s frustrating to see the people who are making their jobs impossible to do well compensated at 12,857%.
cubbies, I don't think it has to do with compensation. I think it has to do with job satisfaction.
It’s funny when the leftists have to step in to clarify another leftist when they start going all Marxist. “Come on comrade cubbies, you know it’s not about the money…it’s safety. We don’t care what the CEO makes”
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:58 pm to Marshhen
quote:You probably ought to go read NC_Tigah's post history. Now cubbies? She's a lost cause.
It’s funny when the leftists have to step in to clarify another leftist when they start going all Marxist. “Come on comrade cubbies, you know it’s not about the money…
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:59 pm to Diamondawg
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Well, damn! I thought this was all about patient safety.
Would you consider 16 patients to one nurse to be safe?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:01 pm to the808bass
How many nurses do they actually hire and provide bonuses to? It’s one thing to say you’re going to do something. Have they actually done it?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:31 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Where did you ever mention patient safety until now? Do you have a link to the 16:1 ratio?
Would you consider 16 patients to one nurse to be safe?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:35 pm to 4cubbies
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Would you consider 16 patients to one nurse to be safe?
What’s the care setting?
Also, no one is addressing the issue. There is a nationwide nursing shortage. Unionization isn’t going to create more credentialed nurses.
It could potentially (likely) increase the market for traveling nurses in New Orleans if the unions push for stricter ratios of nurses to patients. (Which is why the unions won’t advocate for that)
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:35 pm to hawkeye007
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Hospitals are massive grifts for their services
How else do you expect them to stay in business when they are treating illegals and broke dicks for free?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:42 pm to 4cubbies
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How many nurses do they actually hire and provide bonuses to? It’s one thing to say you’re going to do something. Have they actually done it?
You can Google any health system + “nurse” + “sign on bonus”
Do you think they’re all lying?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:45 pm to the808bass
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You can Google any health system + “nurse” + “sign on bonus”
Do you think they’re all lying?
How many nurses do they actually hire and provide bonuses to? It’s one thing to say you’re going to do something. Have they actually done it?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:48 pm to 4cubbies
You’re now arguing in the face of very clear evidence.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:54 pm to the808bass
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Also, no one is addressing the issue. There is a nationwide nursing shortage. Unionization isn’t going to create more credentialed nurses.
Every time I brought up the nursing shortage, i was told that there is no nursing shortage. The people vilifying union were admitting that hospitals purposely understaff to cut costs which creates the illusion of a nursing shortage. And somehow that makes hospital administrators good and nurses bad.
quote:New Orleans already has a strong market for travel nurses.
It could potentially (likely) increase the market for traveling nurses in New Orleans if the unions push for stricter ratios of nurses to patients.
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(Which is why the unions won’t advocate for that)
Which nursing union doesn’t advocate for better patient to nurse ratios?
Safe staffing is one of ANA’s core federal policy priorities. We work closely with our constituent and state nurses associations to monitor and advocate for state-level policies, which generally follow three approaches:
Staffing committees. Nurse-led groups that create unit-level staffing plans based on a patient population’s acuity and needs, matched with staff’s skills and experience. Mandated nurse to patient ratios or standards, in legislation or regulation. Mandated disclosure of staffing levels, to the public and/or regulatory bodies.
ANA supports a legislative model incorporating nurse-driven staffing committees because this approach encourages flexible staffing levels. At least 55 % of staffing committee members should be direct care nurses.
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:56 pm to 4cubbies
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i was told that there is no nursing shortage. The people vilifying union were admitting that hospitals purposely understaff to cut costs which creates the illusion of a nursing shortage.
Lolzy.
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Mandated nurse to patient ratios or standards, in legislation or regulation.
Why don’t you quote one of these mandated ratios they’ve achieved so we can all throw back our heads and laugh together.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:56 pm to the808bass
Yes. There is clear evidence that this is claimed to be offered, which I never disputed. I’m asking if there is evidence that hospitals actually do what they say they will do.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:57 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m asking if there is evidence that hospitals actually do what they say they will do.
Yes.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:00 pm to the808bass
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Why don’t you quote one of these mandated ratios they’ve achieved so we can all throw back our heads and laugh together.
As of March 2022, 16 states currently address nurse staffing in hospitals through either laws or regulations:
Hospital-based: Eight states with committees comprised of at least 50% direct care nurses: CT, IL, NV, NY, OH, OR, TX, WA. One state where a Chief Nursing Officer develops a core staffing plan: MN.
Nurse to patient ratios/standards. Two states: CA, MA
Disclosure and/or reporting requirements. Five states: IL, NJ, NY, RI, VT
Shall we laugh on 3?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:01 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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It was done for many years before CEOs entered the picture and drove the costs of your care way up
Any person in medicine knows hospital administration nowadays is absolutely absurd. It's bloated, expensive, and often unnecessary. It is one of the primary drivers behind the rising cost of healthcare. I spend less and less of my time in hospitals these days, so I spend less and less of my time angry. Its great.
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