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re: TPOS Dailybeast reveals identity of private citizen who made the pelosi video
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:01 am to Armchair_QB
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:01 am to Armchair_QB
quote:
He didn’t lie, you fricking piece of shite.
I’m sorry you have so much hostility towards me for a simple opinion. How is making a video designed to deceive not a lie? Please explain as I’d like to understand how that is not a lie?
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:04 am to BBONDS25
You want to know what a lie is? The “quote” you posted above as if I mentioned death threats and harassment as something that would make him think twice. I never said that. You changed my quote to make it look worse. That is a lie.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:05 am to HailToTheChiz
I have no problem using real names on message boards. I posted mine a few minutes ago. I will never say something here that I would not willingly say to someone’s face in real life.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:06 am to LSU2ALA
quote:Like this?
It’s pretty clear from the article that he was the one who made the misleading video. How is he not trying to mislead people?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
Roger, I don’t disagree with you. The media paints things in the light that best reflects the point they want to make. That is troubling as well. They have done that to Trump many times and I don’t like that either. I know it’s considered pollyanish, but I want a civilized conversation. Not one based on vitriol and hate. I’m afraid we may never get there though.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:14 am to BBONDS25
quote:
How specifically did he lie? Who made the determination?
Wouldn’t editing the speed/tone of a video to present the speaker as having issues be a bit disingenuous?
I’ll likewise agree changing skin tone in pictures to advance a narrative as previously seen on the other side is terrible and should face consequences
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I agree. There are tons of trump memes. Would they want to get doxxed over it.
Piece of shite move.
Piece of shite move.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:26 am to NoSaint
quote:Wouldn't photoshopping Michelle Obama to look thinner on every Vogue cover appearance be a bit disingenuous? Should we doxx those responsible?
Wouldn’t editing the speed/tone of a video
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:28 am to BBONDS25
quote:
How specifically did he lie? Who made the determination?
Doctoring a video to make it something it’s not is a lie, fake news, deception. Take your pick. It’s not the truth any way you look at it.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:39 am to LSU2ALA
quote:or comedy. Are you calling every photoshop of Trump a "lie"?
Doctoring a video to make it something it’s not is a lie, fake news, deception.
Is this Alabama Spring Practice clip "a lie"
because Nick Saban really isn't that short . . .
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:46 am to NC_Tigah
No, the Saban thing is not intended to deceive so that is not a lie. It’s like an advertisement. You can’t tell a deceptive lie. That can get you in trouble. You can though do something so over the top such as “best in the world”. That is legal and called puffery as the average person would not be expected to see that as truth.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:48 am to LSU2ALA
So everyone on message boards across the internet should be doxxed for making videos and gifs making fun of famous people
That's essentially what you're getting at. There isn't a line in the sand here
That's essentially what you're getting at. There isn't a line in the sand here
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:50 am to Deactived
No, comedy is fine. Deceptive political discourse is not.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:50 am to LSU2ALA
quote:
Doctoring a video to make it something it’s not is a lie,
How, specifically was it doctored?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:52 am to LSU2ALA
Oh, so political people are off limits
Every one else is fine though
Every one else is fine though
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:01 am to Deactived
quote:
So everyone on message boards across the internet should be doxxed for making videos and gifs making fun of famous people
That's essentially what you're getting at. There isn't a line in the sand here
Well, everyone COULD and that’s a consideration that has to be made when you produce content to put in the public square.
That said, our society has generally had a hazy line somewhere between “funny meme” and various standards of “deceptive character assassination” or “appalling/grotesque behavior” or various other silos where you kind of expect someone to potentially attempt to punish behavior. It’s murky and best and abused at worst but yea, it’s reality
A meme of trump with comically small baby hands being far different than editing video to look like trump had a stroke and spreading it as a major news story are not going to create the same pushback from you, I would think
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:03 am to BBONDS25
quote:
How, specifically was it doctored?
I haven’t compared them but someone said speed changed, and tone edited to conceal that and make the speaker look worse
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:04 am to LSU2ALA
quote:So by Kevin Poulsen's own admission, someone posted the ORIGINAL Pelosi video with her halting, blinking, stuttering statement. That video was unaltered. A question was posed in response, "Was she drunk?"
so that is not a lie
After that, a new OBVIOUSLY ALTERED video was posted. The altered video made fun of Pelosi's original drunk-like appearance. How is that a "lie"?
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:05 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
or comedy. Are you calling every photoshop of Trump a "lie"?
Is this Alabama Spring Practice clip "a lie"
because Nick Saban really isn't that short . . .
No but I’d react differently to someone posting a realistically forged drug test or police report or totally fabricated social media post for one of his kids right before the draft starts.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:They’ve done it before. For the CNN wrestling meme.
It is very bad to start doxxing people
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