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Total Surrender: Johnson’s Ukraine Aid Package Allows Biden to Forgive 50% of “Loans”

Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8082 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:51 pm
Total Surrender: Johnson’s Ukraine Aid Package Allows Biden to Forgive 50% of “Loans” on November 15 and 100% of “Loans” to Ukraine Later On



This legislation includes a loan structure, which comes after Mike Johnson spoke at a press conference with President Trump at the Mar a Lago on April 12. The President expressed his desire to make the funding “in the form of a loan” and stop “handing out gifts.”

According to a source with knowledge about the press conference, Mike Johnson went to the Mar a Lago to speak with President Trump about a variety of issues critical to the GOP and to show unity within the party. Johnson originally hoped to cover support for his Ukraine aid package in the press conference, though after what appeared to be a lack of enthusiasm, the topic shifted to election integrity efforts. During the conference, a reporter asked Trump whether he would support a Ukrainian aid bill if the Speaker moved forward with it.

However, the package Mike Johnson announced Wednesday includes terms that will allow the President to cancel 50% of Ukraine’s debt after November 15, 2024 and the remaining 50% after January 1, 2024. It’s no wonder why Joe Biden came out “strongly” in support of the package, urging the House and Senate to pass it.

After President Trump wins the 2024 election, as expected, Joe Biden can cancel 50% of Ukraine’s debt before his term is over in January. If Biden and the Democrats pull off another stolen election, they can forgive 100% of Ukraine’s debt a little over one year later.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49163 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:11 am to
The "loan" is Trump's idea.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21555 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:44 am to
What did conservatives get?

We should be spending at least as much on our own border as on Ukraine's defense.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29059 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:58 am to
Johnson is yet another gimp with a worn out a-hole. The GOP nauseates me.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11045 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:04 am to
This is Trump's stupid idea and he thinks people are too dumb to see that calling it a loan means nothing.
Posted by taeemwar
Dallas
Member since Apr 2010
536 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:11 am to
They don’t even talk about the border anymore.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 1:15 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48282 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:38 am to
quote:

The "loan" is Trump's idea.


What are the specific requirements for Lon forgiveness. How does it differ from what has been done in the past?
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
89 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:45 am to
I am embarrassed that Mike Johnson is from Louisiana. Just another swamp creature.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14279 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:24 am to
What's the point of the dates? Are they making payments on it now?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5562 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:04 am to
Conservatives get nothing and should celebrate the fecklessness of the Republican Party.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12065 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:11 am to
I for one am happy Johnson is doing this. I hope they do more of it.

Too many people still think that the GOP is the answer. They’re stuck in team politics us vs them, and still dont see the bigger picture. Or if they do, they dont care so long as “their” team wins. Newsflash, “your team” doesnt give a shite about youor anything else other than themselves and their money/power.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:12 am to
quote:


What are the specific requirements for Lon forgiveness


Zero.

And trump gave Johnson his blessing on the deal.

Trumps not wrong here, you people are. There is a political reality y'all cannot understand.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260225 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:15 am to
quote:

The "loan" is Trump's idea.


Because at least Trump understands the reality Republicans have here.

Because this stuff was allowed to happen doesnt mean they support it. There are political realities to deal with.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26190 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:15 am to
No loan to Ukraine was ever going to be paid back anyway.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21555 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:36 am to
quote:

There is a political reality y'all cannot understand.


Which is?
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:38 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27449 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:37 am to
Stop, just stop!!!! People need their fantasies, screw wider realities.

I wonder how long it will be before some the people in the Freedom Caucus realize that the red hot poker they want to shove up Johnson's and other Republicans asses is really tailored for their backsides.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31483 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:39 am to
Whenever I hear “package” in reference to money, I know my retirement and kids’ college funds and my credit cards are all about to get even more FUBAR.

Such an innocuous little term, like getting some fancy chocolates in the mail.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 8:20 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23690 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:44 am to
quote:

What's the point of the dates? Are they making payments on it now?


It has something to do with an election.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32676 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:45 am to
The power of MAGA!
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8156 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

What did conservatives get?

The same thing as liberals... more kickbacks.

People who still view this as 2 competing parties can't understand why the republicans are so worthless. When you look at our system as the uniparty oligarchy that it is, one that just gives lip service to what is good for the country and desired by the people, it all makes sense.
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