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Tommy Robinson getting right wing media play but Israel isn't?

Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:06 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:06 am
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The Israeli Ministerial Committee for Legislation will discuss, Sunday, a bill that would prohibit the documentation of Israeli soldiers’ human rights violations against Palestinian citizens.

On Thursday, Israel Hayom explained that the chairman of Yisrael Beiteinu bloc in the Knesset, Robert Ilatov, proposed the bill with the support of his party’s leader, Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

The bill states, “anyone who shoots a video or a photo, or records soldiers while they are doing their job, with the aim of disturbing the morale of soldiers and citizens, will be sentenced to five years imprisonment. In case this is done with the aim of destabilising the state’s security, the perpetrator will be sentenced to ten years imprisonment.”

Israeli MP Ilatov asserted that his proposal comes as part of an attempt to respond to the movement of left-wing activists in exposing Israeli practices against Palestinian citizens in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

He justified his proposal by saying,
"Israel has long been facing a disturbing phenomenon; that of the documentation of Israeli army soldiers, by video shooting or audio recordings by organisations that are hostile to Israel and supportive of the Palestinians..." He added, “It is unreasonable for an activist or leftist organisation, supported by a foreign entity, to be granted the freedom to document soldiers while doing their duties."

This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 12:20 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:13 am to
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Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:15 am to
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Sad to see so much anti-semitism on this board.



Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:19 am to
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Sad to see so much anti-semitism on this board.

Disgusting really.


yeah it's hard to explain. i personally can't figure it out
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2367 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:24 am to
I could care less about the Israelis shooting, burning or just absolutely wiping the Palestinians out, or vice versa. Just leave us out of it.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:27 am to
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yeah it's hard to explain. i personally can't figure it out



Personally, I would suggest researching common anti-Semitic claims, and then researching their veracity.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:27 am to
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Here's how I see it: Jews/israel have taken so much shite throughout the vast majority of their history that they deserve to have the right to do whatever they want to whoever they want



Does this logic apply to other historically persecuted groups?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:28 am to
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I could care less about the Israelis shooting, burning or just absolutely wiping the Palestinians out, or vice versa. Just leave us out of it.



That's just not how Israel works
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:29 am to
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Here's how I see it: Jews/israel have taken so much shite throughout the vast majority of their history that they deserve to have the right to do whatever they want to whoever they want


what a dumb position
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:30 am to
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Here's how I see it: Jews/israel have taken so much shite throughout the vast majority of their history that they deserve to have the right to do whatever they want to whoever they want



You've got to be fricking kidding me, Hail. That is absolutely absurd.

Can Irishmen kill Englishmen with impunity? Can Armenians kill Turks with no recourse? Can ethnic Russians kill Jews without consequence?

Historical grievances are not a precedent or justification for violence. Good Lord.
Posted by RTM4
Pflugerville
Member since Apr 2018
2367 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:38 am to
I just don't care. I have spouted off about Israel on here before and the post was wiped clean as a whistle asap.

I am no NAZI and I do not like the Islamist side either but sooner or later they just need to get it on and wipe one or the other out and keep us out of it.

The USA just needs to butt out of this one and let the two bullies fight it out. Should have been done long ago in my opinion.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84679 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:58 am to
Bc truthfully, most of us don’t care about Palestinians. We’re ready for them to move on to a Muslim country and let the Jews have their little Israeli state and everyone can finally shut up about it.

Many of us do care about Britain and Western Europe.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 1:51 am to
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Bc truthfully, most of us don’t care about Palestinians. We’re ready for them to move on to a Muslim country and let the Jews have their little Israeli state and everyone can finally shut up about it.

Many of us do care about Britain and Western Europe.



well no shite. but the israeli government is doing even more egregious anti-liberty shite than britain is doing
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Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4937 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:34 am to
Well can you blame them? The left’s Job is to capture pictures that purposefully make the Israeli Troops look like blood thirsty savages while humas looking like Boy Scouts. The left and globalists created this with their dishonest reporting. The left spins everything based on their agenda rather than just reporting facts and letting the people decide for themselves.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138808 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:52 am to
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“It is unreasonable for an activist or leftist organisation, supported by a foreign entity, to be granted the freedom to document soldiers while doing their duties."
In some cases it may be. But generally I'd agree with you. Certainly abuses when they occur should be documented
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42112 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:57 am to
The Israelis could propose the same law in our own Congress and a sizeable percentage of our politicians and population would support it, because they care more about Israel than their own country and because they equate opposing the policies of Israel to anti-Semitism, which is insane.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:58 am to
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“It is unreasonable for an activist or leftist organisation, supported by a foreign entity, to be granted the freedom to document soldiers while doing their duties."




A double tragedy actually, forcing a conscripted soldier to do his governments dirty work, not a long term model.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127376 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:01 am to
I would have to believe their rationale is to discourage people from deliberately inciting and then recording acts of reprisal. Still disagree with the position of the Israeli government.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:08 am to
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A double tragedy actually, forcing a conscripted soldier to do his governments dirty work, not a long term model.


The conscripted soldiers are largely willing participants in the ethnic cleansing and genocide. (Some have spoken out against it.)


Duty in the occupied territories shooting kids with rocks and abusing civilians isn't causing some PTS that would justify the crimes committed.

That said the average Isreali is not as cruel and criminal in intent as your average American Evangelical.


Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:14 am to
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could care less


Why can’t people get this right?
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