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re: Tommie Robinson and the Brits revolution. Is it just going to fizzle out?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:47 am to Lsupimp
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:47 am to Lsupimp
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It’s SFP. Not even kidding, he is now officially at the DV, DNR period of his narcissistic unraveling.
You mean using things like evidence?
This is like your promotion of fantasy over reality yesterday
Here is data on discussing UK voters from an election that literally just happened:

Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:47 am to upgrayedd
While promoting the status quo statism.
Its not even funny anymore.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:47 am to upgrayedd
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It’s pretty funny when he claims to be libertarian
What does discussing data on UK voters have to do with my desire for small government?
Talk about a rhetorical digression
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:51 am to Covingtontiger77
Probably. As much as native Britons dislike the immigration situation, the politicall class for some reason wants to keep shoving it down their throats. Whether it be Tory or Labor
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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Labour, who promotes even more immigration, won in a landslide. Reform UK got a whopping 5 (out of 650) seats in the House of Commons, in an election held a few months ago.
That had absolutely nothing to do with Labour being the best candidates or the people wanting as much immigration as possible. It had everything to do with the conservatives doing absolutely nothing but caving to Labour demands. Sunak was a complete stooge for big business and big govt. Of course, you know all this but you’re trying to win an argument so you’ll say anything. The turnout numbers were pretty low.
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In the UK? Evidence?
Why do you think the conservatives took such beating in this election after winning in a landslide? It’s because the conservatives are merely labour driving the speed limit.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:52 am to KiwiHead
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the politicall class for some reason wants to keep shoving it down their throats
They;re being told without these immigrants that the economy would collapse.
Theyre wrong. Wages would rise.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
I did no such thing. I commented on you. Your ridiculously narcissistic and infantile posting style that has made you the current board punchline . You built a strawman and attached them to me. Which is just another way how you have achieved The View status on this board. You are almost universally reviled now, and not for the reasons you think.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:53 am to upgrayedd
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Why do you think the conservatives took such beating in this election after winning in a landslide? It’s because the conservatives are merely labour driving the speed limit.
Yep, conservatives fricked themselves.
There is no real choice anymore.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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What does discussing data on UK voters have to do with my desire for small government? Talk about a rhetorical digression
Because you pretend to hold libertarian ideas then the the main stream, usually left, position then attempt to defend it.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:55 am to upgrayedd
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That had absolutely nothing to do with Labour being the best candidates or the people wanting as much immigration as possible. It had everything to do with the conservatives doing absolutely nothing but caving to Labour demands.
So the Conservatives "cave" to Labour, and the people are upset and reject that by...voting for Labour? Makes sense
Especially when it comes to immigration
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Why do you think the conservatives took such beating in this election after winning in a landslide?
Their cycle is over. They've ruled for a long time and the people are tired of them. Labour will go too far and will lose in a cycle or 2 back to the Conservatives
Reform UK will still be an extreme minority party because its politics are not popular.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:55 am to upgrayedd
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Because you pretend to hold libertarian ideas then the the main stream, usually left, position then attempt to defend it.
He;s become a true believer in government.
Its not the government, or any shadow groups. Its the population. Despite elections proving nothing changes.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:56 am to upgrayedd
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They’ll only be prosecuting one side
Just like here then?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:56 am to Lsupimp
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I commented on you.
On me relying on data over fantasy
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You built a strawman
What strawman?
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You are almost universally reviled now
Because people have shifted their stances and my consistency is no longer fashionable. It wasn't fashionable when the same people pushing MAGA/Trump were pushing the Iraq War on here, too. Same population and same reaction (just different stage of political malleability for them).
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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You have to convince voters to support your policies. That's how democracy works.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:57 am to KiwiHead
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Probably. As much as native Britons dislike the immigration situation, the politicall class for some reason wants to keep shoving it down their throats. Whether it be Tory or Labor
There have been multiple studies that have shown that immigration does not have a positive effect on the economy despite what both labor and conservatives have been saying. In the UK it’s a net drain on the economy and does nothing but put more strain on all services.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:58 am to upgrayedd
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Because you pretend to hold libertarian ideas
I do
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then the the main stream, usually left, position then attempt to defend it.
I assume you left out a "use" in there?
And this is a straw man.
Being anti-MAGA on certain policies doesn't make my stance "left", especially when I'm criticizing leftist policies of MAGA
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:58 am to BigPerm30
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where the frick is democracy? They’ve installed the last three DNC candidates for president
Which political party is the "DNC" in the UK?
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:58 am to upgrayedd
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In the UK it’s a net drain on the economy and does nothing but put more strain on all services.
Conservatives got in hot water because immigration increased on their watch, when they campaigned on cutting it.
The people have no choice.
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:59 am to upgrayedd
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There have been multiple studies that have shown that immigration does not have a positive effect on the economy despite what both labor and conservatives have been saying. In the UK it’s a net drain on the economy and does nothing but put more strain on all services.
And yet people still support the current immigration policy and continue to do so.
Having people vote for a policy that exists is not a sign that the elected representatives are somehow rejecting voter desires
Posted on 8/4/24 at 8:59 am to Lsupimp
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You are almost universally reviled now, and not for the reasons you think.
This really doesn’t seem to mean much. Posters get insulted on this board for anything that can remotely be perceived as anti-Trump.
Anyone who isn’t a sunshine pumper will eventually become “reviled”. People seem to hate non-Trump republicans more than they hate democrats.
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