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re: Today (January 19) is Robert E. Lee’s birthday. A timely quote?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sherman knew who the better politician was
This is the first correct thing you've said.
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
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Then why did you have trouble with it?
Maybe I assumed someone taught you grammar. Of course, if your grasp of history is an indicator, I shouldn't be surprised.
That's my bad.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:24 pm to RollTide1987
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This is the first correct thing you've said.
Everything I've said has been correct. You've apparently and admittedly been arguing an entirely separate point.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Maybe I assumed someone taught you grammar.
Assumptions get you killed.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:27 pm to RollTide1987
The best thing to come from this discussion is that I can point right back here the next time you try to pull your Muh History Degree bullshite.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:27 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Everything I've said has been correct.
No, it hasn't. You're arguing that Sherman was given the opportunity to command Grant but turned it down. That is an incorrect statement. Sherman deciding to serve under Grant despite outranking him is the correct statement.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:30 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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The best thing to come from this discussion is that I can point right back here the next time you try to pull your Muh History Degree bullshite.
You can say and do whatever you please, my friend. It won't make you correct.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
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You're arguing that Sherman was given the opportunity to command Grant but turned it down.
And I'm correct. The question you asked in response to that tells me you don't know anything about it.
Read a book.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:32 pm to RollTide1987
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It won't make you correct.
Of course it won't. What a silly statement.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:36 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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And I'm correct.
No, you're not. You can repeat this over and over but it won't make it true. But by all means, continue to double down. I enjoy engaging in this discussion, troll or no troll.
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Read a book.
I would suggest you do this as well. I would suggest starting with Grant and Sherman: The Friendship That Won the Civil War by Charles Bracelen Flood. I relied on it heavily when I did my research for my thesis paper back in the day.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:37 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Be more like Sherman.
Exterminated any Native Americans lately?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:38 pm to RollTide1987
Let's not lose sight of what kicked this off:
...and the best you and your history degree could come up with was "Sherman knew Grant was a better politician."
Holy. shite.
That should make anyone prefer to follow Sherman even more.
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I'd still follow him into a fight over Grant.
...and the best you and your history degree could come up with was "Sherman knew Grant was a better politician."
Holy. shite.
That should make anyone prefer to follow Sherman even more.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:39 pm to RollTide1987
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No, you're not.
Yes, I am. You asking for letters from Halleck demonstrates that you don't have a fricking clue, my dude.
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I would suggest you do this as well.
I'd be genuinely surprised if you could find a book about Sherman that I haven't read.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Let's not lose sight of what kicked this off
I'm glad you finally abandoned your failed and ahistorical argument. Good on you abandoning your pride in favor of rationality.
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...and the best you and your history degree could come up with was "Sherman knew Grant was a better politician."
I mean...Sherman would follow Grant into a fight over Sherman. We have his own words:
"I'm a damned sight smarter than Grant; I know more about organization, supply and administration and about everything else than he does; but I'll tell you where he beats me and where he beats the world. He don't care a damn for what the enemy does out of his sight but it scares me like hell."
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You asking for letters from Halleck demonstrates that you don't have a fricking clue, my dude.
I would argue the opposite as Halleck was their commanding officer in February 1862. If Sherman was offered command of an army in the Western Theater over Grant, that offer would have come from Halleck and there would be some documentation in writing of such a request.
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I'd be genuinely surprised if you could find a book about Sherman that I haven't read.
I can't wait for you to read the one I'm working on then.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 1:58 pm to RollTide1987
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I'm glad you finally abandoned your failed and ahistorical argument. Good on you abandoning your pride in favor of rationality.
That didn't happen. I'm just keeping the reason you fell on your face in the first place at the top.
You're embarrassing yourself.
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We have his own words:
We have Grant's words too. Big fricking shocker that two dudes who respected each other, had good things to say about each other.
Christ Almighty.
Seriously, who gave you a fricking degree?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 2:00 pm to RollTide1987
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I would argue the opposite as Halleck was their commanding officer in February 1862.
Both served prior to and beyond February 1862.
Come on.
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I can't wait for you to read the one I'm working on then.
I do hope you've done better research than you've shown yourself capable of here.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
9 pages, 28 hours and you’re still a little fricking bitch.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That didn't happen.
It did.
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We have Grant's words too.
You don't say?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:52 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Both served prior to and beyond February 1862.
So far so obvious. What's your point?
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I do hope you've done better research than you've shown yourself capable of here.
I mean everything I'm saying is literally taken verbatim from the books you've claimed to have read. So either you're some kind of gnostic who possesses secret knowledge unknown to his biographers or your reading comprehension skills are below average.
However, there could be a third option and you're just trolling. Either option is fine with me.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 3:54 pm
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