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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:25 am to
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:25 am to
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I know that when I descibed someht that wants lover spending, I usually call them "Leftist"
Is Engrish your 3rd language?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:26 am to
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You know, us Leftists just love our fiscal responsibility.
No, you just love to bitch, whine and gripe.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:35 am to
If this bill didn’t pass and taxes went up he will bitch. Again it’s always the same posters whining and they all say they voted for Trump but have no clue what he promised.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:36 am to
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it’s always the same posters whining and they all say they voted for Trump but have no clue what he promised.
Agreed. They are all libs posing as Trump supporters.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:39 am to
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If you can't see how all of this saves us money, you're the problem.

How does not taxing tips and overtime save us money?

Also, anyone who thinks that construction of a border wall would be anything but a boondoggle is insane.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 11:45 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65782 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:44 am to
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Also, anyone who thinks that constructions of a border wall would be anything but a boondoggle is insane.


Controlling immigration is the biggest, best, most important thing we need to do.

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Mass migration is this generation’s single most pressing issue.

By bypassing the Senate’s 60 vote threshold, OBBB gives Republicans unprecedented border security and deportation funding WITHOUT negotiating with Democrats, who invariably demand amnesty.

That alone is the win of the century.

What are we getting?
- Full construction of the border wall
- 900 miles of river barriers
- Upgraded technology to detect smugglers and drug traffickers
- Billions of dollars for Border Patrol
- 10,000 new ICE agents
- Detention capacity for at least 100,000 aliens per day
- $20 billion for the Coast Guard to help secure our waters

The bill full secures the border and provides resources for over 1 million deportations a year.

And it has no amnesty, no path to citizenship, nothing Democrats want.

No President has EVER been able to deliver a win that big.


ETA: This something that WILL NOT PASS a 60 vote threshold.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 11:45 am
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:45 am to
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How does not taxing tips and overtime save us money?
EVERY person that recieves tips or works overtime saves money by not having to pay tax...

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Also, anyone who thinks that constructions of a border wall would be anything but a boondoggle is insane.
Really now, seems we have several hundred miles of border wall completed. Don't recall all of those boondoggle reports from the lefty media during Trumps first term.

Did you also argue that the border was secure under biden?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:45 am to
Name the last bill you saw that had these things in it. Asking for serious dialogue from you.

Here are 50 MAJOR wins from Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill that the media is ignoring

1. No taxes on tips — servers, bartenders, and bellhops just got a raise Promises made, promises kept

2.Made Trump tax cuts permanent — Biden wanted them to expire.

3.Child tax credit raised to $2,500

4.Overtime pay tax-free — work hard, actually keep more.

5.$1.6 trillion in spending cuts — the largest rollback of government bloat in U.S. history.

6.Work requirement for welfare — able-bodied? Then get off the couch.

7.Deporting 1 million illegal immigrants per year — no more catch and release.

8. Builds the wall—finishes it — 701 miles of serious border protection. Massive!

9.10,000 new ICE agents — law and order at the border. Huge!

10.Eliminates Medicaid for illegal aliens — American benefits for Americans.

11.“Trump Savings Accounts” for kids — build generational wealth from birth. Game changer.

12.Slashes IRS funding — no more 87,000 new agents breathing down your neck.

13.Green New Deal defunded — no more money for solar BS.

14.Energy production unleashed — back to drilling, fracking, etc.

15.Tariffs on Chinese-built ships — protect American shipbuilders.

16.Buy American, build American — required on all infrastructure projects.

17.Estate tax protections expanded — family farms and businesses stay in the family.

18.Repeals DEI mandates — merit matters again. DEI is dying.

19.Bans taxpayer-funded gender ideology in federal agencies.

20.Military pay raise + benefits boost

21.National missile defense (“Golden Dome”)

22.HSA accounts expanded — use them for direct primary care.

23.School choice tax credits — parents, not unions, control education. Historic!

24.Feds barred from mandating pronoun usage.

25.Medicaid block grants to states — local control, not DC strings. Saves hundreds of billions.

26.Revives apprenticeship programs — college not required to succeed. The cartel hates this.

27.1% of exports must ship under U.S. flag

28.Mandates voter ID for federal elections.

29.Ends ESG mandates in retirement accounts

30.Cracks down on Big Pharma middlemen

31.Bans drag shows for kids at federally funded venues.

32.Fires the climate cult from federal boards

33.Veterans get priority housing access

34. Tax credit for buying American-made vehicles

35.Stops Chinese ownership of U.S. farmland — our soil is finally protected!.

36.Bans CRT from federal training programs.

37.Ends taxpayer-funded abortions abroad. And defunds planned parenthood!

38.Guts federal diversity czars — cuts the bloated bureaucracy.

39.Revives the Keystone XL pipeline
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40. Eliminates federal COVID emergency powers

41.Enacts Social Security tax cuts for seniors.

42.Defends religious liberty in the workplace

43. Restores due process on college campuses.

44. Massively expands trade school funding

45. Outlaws federal funding for gender transitions for minors.

46. Creates nationwide “patriot curriculum” grant fund

47.Halts funding to the UN’s woke agenda arms.

48. Tax breaks for adoption and large families.

49. Increases penalties for fentanyl trafficking — life in prison for cartels.

50. Restores cash bail in federal jurisdictions — no more revolving-door criminals.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:46 am to
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Controlling immigration is the biggest, best, most important thing we need to do.

Even if that’s true, government contractors in the American southwest are about to get some fat contracts on the taxpayer dime with minimal accountability and underperform spectacularly.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65782 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:47 am to
It's like half of what Trump ran on, all in one bill. We're shooting ourselves in the foot if we don't do this.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:47 am to
Good thing taxing douche “voted” for all that
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:47 am to
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BCreed1
BOOM!
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:48 am to
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Crowknowsbest
Bitching, whining, griping and complaining. You wouldn't happen to be a "woman" would ya?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:49 am to
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Did you also argue that the border was secure under biden?

No.
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Don't recall all of those boondoggle reports from the lefty media during Trumps first term.

Basically every large government infrastructure projects runs way over budget and schedule. Whatever they say it will cost is almost certainly a wild underestimate.
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EVERY person that recieves tips or works overtime saves money by not having to pay tax...

Why should those people get special treatment?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65782 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:53 am to
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Even if that’s true, government contractors in the American southwest are about to get some fat contracts on the taxpayer dime with minimal accountability and underperform spectacularly.


What on earth are you talking about? It's like people around here are taking crazy pills. Now we're supposed to oppose the border wall because we have to hire contractors to build it?
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 11:54 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:54 am to
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What on earth are you talking about? It's like people around here are taking crazy pills. Now we're supposed to oppose the border wall because we have to hire contractors to build it?

I oppose it because I think it’s an efficient use of taxpayer funds. I think there are more efficient ways to secure the border. I think the wall is primarily symbolic.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65782 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:56 am to
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I oppose it because I think it’s an efficient use of taxpayer funds. I think there are more efficient ways to secure the border. I think the wall is primarily symbolic.


I think we should also use those ways, but a wall will be very helpful and will keep our border more secure when we have presidents in power who have no interest in securing our border.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:57 am to
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Basically every large government infrastructure projects runs way over budget and schedule. Whatever they say it will cost is almost certainly a wild underestimate.
Be that as it may, the border wall and enhanced border security is working... Seems like GOOD expenditures to me.

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Why should those people get special treatment?
Because the President said he'd do it. Promises made, Promises kept. You're welcome to get a job working overtime and/or getting tips. Don't be jealous of others.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:58 am to
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I think we should also use those ways, but a wall will be very helpful and will keep our border more secure when we have presidents in power who have no interest in securing our border.

If a future president truly has no interest, the wall will not be an effective deterrent. It will be easily breached and require constant repair and maintenance.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26956 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 11:58 am to
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Because the President said he'd do it. Promises made, Promises kept.

I don’t care about promises if it’s bad policy.
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