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re: To those saying Trump can’t declare Transtifa a terrorist organization

Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:01 am to
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:01 am to
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Only men that own property should be allowed to vote. That's the way the Founding Fathers envisioned


I'm cool going back to this way of doing things... Universal Franchise is retarded.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:01 am to
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AQ is an actual, single body with directions from a leadership. Who is that leadership group with Antifa?


Does there have to be an official leadership board of directors to commit terror as a group? I doubt it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:03 am to
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The billionaire who funds them?

That's a whole nother issue.

Which Antifa local group is funded directly?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:03 am to
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AQ is an actual, single body with directions from a leadership. Who is that leadership group with Antifa?


Does there have to be an official leadership board of directors to commit terror as a group? I doubt it.


Apparently, Articles of Incorporation (or an LLC Operating Agreement) is a prerequisite to being declared a terrorist organization. They have to have a registered agent to deliver the declaration to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:05 am to
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Does there have to be an official leadership board of directors to commit terror as a group?

If you want to label that entire group as a terror organization? Yes.

Otherwise, you're looking at multiple smaller domestic organization that don't really fit the definition of terror groups.

Even this CK killer doesn't seem, at this point, to be acting in concert with an Antifa group. Wasn't there a report from the Trump admin (FBI I think) that he was a lone wolf?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:07 am to
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Apparently, Articles of Incorporation (or an LLC Operating Agreement) is a prerequisite to being declared a terrorist organization.

Not what I said. Don't be dumb.

ISIS would be the closest thing to what you're trying to do, and, even then, ISIS had a leadership group who controlled the operations downstream. Most famous is Abu Bakr al Baghdadi.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:08 am to
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Terrorist Organizations circa 2021


You forgot one:

Whitey.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:10 am to
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Apparently, Articles of Incorporation (or an LLC Operating Agreement) is a prerequisite to being declared a terrorist organization.

Not what I said. Don't be dumb.

ISIS would be the closest thing to what you're trying to do, and, even then, ISIS had a leadership group who controlled the operations downstream. Most famous is Abu Bakr al Baghdadi.


So once you take out leadership the organization ceases to exist?

It doesn't?

So why does the absence of a coalesced leadership at the start matter?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:11 am to
Trump should write and EO and the Republican Congress should follow it up by writing and passing a law making protesting with face masks and face coverings a federal crime.

Antifa thrives on anonymity in their anarchy. Unmask them and force them to have their face associated with their chiaos and violence.

Then true media outlets and social media streams need to make these people and their families publicly known. Where they live, where they work. schools they attend? The public needs to know who the violent people are in their midst.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:11 am to
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So once you take out leadership the organization ceases to exist?

No. It's just multiple groups operating.

As I have said multiple times ITT.

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So why does the absence of a coalesced leadership at the start matter?

It matters if you're declaring the entirety a single terror organization, instead of 100 smaller organizations. The connectivity and structure makes all the difference.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:12 am to
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by writing and passing a law making protesting with face masks and face coverings a federal crime.


That's illegal and clearly a 1A violation
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:15 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:15 am to
Who is the current leader of Al Qaeda?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:16 am to
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Who is the current leader of Al Qaeda?

Per Google

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The de facto current leader of al-Qaeda is Saif al-Adel. He assumed this role after the death of the previous leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, in 2022
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:17 am to
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The billionaire who funds them?

That's a whole nother issue.

Which Antifa local group is funded directly?


It's the correct answer that you refuse to accept.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:19 am to
I just think people should be very careful about throwing around that label because a Dem will use it right back.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:20 am to
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It's the correct answer that you refuse to accept.

The problem is it's not nearly as simple as you're trying to make it.

I imagine there are multiple layers of funding that are all legitimate and each of those groups operates independently of the funding source, and only a % of each trickle ends up in these local Antifa groups.

It's going to be difficult to paint a picture of a single operation unless you can prove the inter-connected nature specifically with the direction from the funding source. Possible? yes, but that will require some "smoking gun" evidence of the direction, etc.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:20 am to
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That's illegal and clearly a 1A violation


Why is banning face coverings a crime? It's been done before... most notably in response to the KKK.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22705 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:21 am to
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Does there have to be an official leadership board of directors to commit terror as a group?


If you want to label that entire group as a terror organization? Yes.


You are so full of shite

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:21 am to
They are clearly funded and organized. Those funding it don’t want to be known and are probably some combination of wealthy donors, left wing interest groups, and external enemies of the US. Hopefully, the designation will help expose them.
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