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Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:31 am to bamarep
I don't have any friends that expect me to do the fighting for them.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:33 am to I B Freeman
Japan sent a large assistance force for Iraqi freedom and Afghanistan, one of the largest of all our allies iirc.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:35 am to Tiguar
The main things the Japanese have done for the US the last 30 years is to buy our debt and make better cars than Ford and GM.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:36 am to I B Freeman
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make better cars than Ford and GM.
And that's not even a high bar to clear
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:39 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:Iraq says hello.
he better question is how many will you have to sacrifice by eventually having to go back into these places because your short sighted pulling out caused them to spiral into chaos?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:40 am to I B Freeman
We do not need to step back. Souyh Korea is an ally.
However Trump is stopping payments to Pakistan and more.
See how that works
However Trump is stopping payments to Pakistan and more.
See how that works
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:40 am to Tiguar
Had the big 3 US automakers--add AMC to that for the time period--had listened to Demming like the Japanese did they would have been making the quality we now enjoy 30 years ago.
Another big reason the Japanese passed us up in the eighties in manufacturing quality is that many US companies were getting by selling the easiest customer in the world--the US government. The government bought enough crap from the big 3 they could stay in business. The Japanese, without a military, didn't have such captive customers.
Another big reason the Japanese passed us up in the eighties in manufacturing quality is that many US companies were getting by selling the easiest customer in the world--the US government. The government bought enough crap from the big 3 they could stay in business. The Japanese, without a military, didn't have such captive customers.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:41 am to I B Freeman
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Our job is done. They are talking.
Our job isn't to get them talking. Our job is to keep that psycho in check.
I don't like us being the world police but Kim needs a babysitter. Unfortunately we drew the short straw on this.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:42 am to Jjdoc
Send the South Koreans and the Japanese a bill for the operation of the US Pacific fleet if you want. I guarantee you if ask them to pay for what we will do they will immediately tell us our help is not needed.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 10:45 am to MrLarson
That is where you are wrong. None of our "allies" are asking us to destroy him or even keep him check. The opposite has been true more than not. They have been critical of our war talk. None of allies or the Chinese want us to use our military against North Korea.
Time to move on and let them all handle their own problems.
Time to move on and let them all handle their own problems.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:20 am to I B Freeman
This is why I can never be a libertatian, even though I like so many of their other positions.
NK has nuclear weapons, with delivery systems possibly capable of reaching the continental US. Anything other than engagement, whether leading to their leaders removal and replacement, or the complete dismantling of their nuclear program, is fatally irresponsible.
That would be my description of libertarian foreign policy, fatally irresponsible.
NK has nuclear weapons, with delivery systems possibly capable of reaching the continental US. Anything other than engagement, whether leading to their leaders removal and replacement, or the complete dismantling of their nuclear program, is fatally irresponsible.
That would be my description of libertarian foreign policy, fatally irresponsible.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:30 am to troyt37
Ok let me get his straight---you are advocating for war with the North Korean despite the opposition to such a war from the South Koreans, the Japanese, the Chinese and the Russians??
I would call such a position as "fatally irresponsible".
I would call such a position as "fatally irresponsible".
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:35 am to I B Freeman
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Our job is done.
Now, we can step back if we want a nuclear arms race among the East Asians - because if we're not there with our nuclear umbrella around S. Korea and Japan, they will have to go nuclear themselves - and Japan can do so in about 60 days, probably less.
Do you want that? If not, we HAVE to stay involved.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 11:37 am to Ace Midnight
We can't stop the spread of a technology as old as the nuclear bomb.
Let the Japs and the South Koreans have them.
Let the Japs and the South Koreans have them.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 12:07 pm to I B Freeman
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Our job is done. They are talking. Nobody in the area really liked the attention we gave the idiot and they were particularly skeptical of our war talk.
This isn't about SK. This is about our national security. It's about not letting a regime obtain the ability to strike the US (their existence revolves around destroying the Us). It's about not letting them share that technology with the likes of Iran who would love to see the west taken down.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 1:36 pm to I B Freeman
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Ok let me get his straight---you are advocating for war with the North Korean despite the opposition to such a war from the South Koreans, the Japanese, the Chinese and the Russians??
War has always been a last resort. I would expect it to be with NK also. I consider the western United States being under threat of nuclear attack by the North Koreans unacceptable. Just as walking away, saying our job here is done is unacceptable.
I would advocate for whatever it takes to eliminate that threat. I believe that threat would be eliminated in a matter of days if the president announced all trade with China stops that day, and resumes the day that it is eliminated, and a new regime is in charge.
I would advocate for total embargo of any country having any trade with NK. I would advocate for assasination of their leadership, and every mothers son of their family.
If that fails to eliminate the threat, war it is, because the alternative is unacceptable.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 2:13 pm to troyt37
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I would advocate for whatever it takes to eliminate that threat. I believe that threat would be eliminated in a matter of days if the president announced all trade with China stops that day, and resumes the day that it is eliminated, and a new regime is in charge.
I would advocate for total embargo of any country having any trade with NK. I would advocate for assasination of their leadership, and every mothers son of their family.
What a crock.
You wouldn't last a day calling for a boycott of trade with China. You think you are going to force China to war with North Korea by denying Americans all the hundreds of thousands of items we import from China???
Un doesn't care about his people. Even a Chinese embargo of North Korea will not make him give up his nukes.
We should just leave instead of fighting with China over North Korea.
If the North Koreans ever attempt to attack the USA we should destroy the country.
Sounds to me like you want a war somewhere in Asia--either with China or North Korea.
Take up you gun son.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 2:16 pm to BobBoucher
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This isn't about SK
It would be very quickly about SK if we attach NK as you war mongers wish.
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This is about our national security.
Not really. Has anyone attacked us? Nope.
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It's about not letting a regime obtain the ability to strike the US (their existence revolves around destroying the Us). It's about not letting them share that technology with the likes of Iran who would love to see the west taken down.
That is all BS the neocons say. You do know the Pakistanis have the bomb don't you?
We can't stop a country from getting technology developed in the forties.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 2:18 pm to I B Freeman
You arm chair diplomats and generals think there is a solution in North Korea. There isn't.
We have a small window to back out--we should use it and let the "allies" we have over there handle it. They are the ones that do not want us to use the military.
We have a small window to back out--we should use it and let the "allies" we have over there handle it. They are the ones that do not want us to use the military.
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