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re: TIME: The U.S. Military Believes People Have a 6th Sense (paranormal, Q spin off thread)

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Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 4:47 pm to
They were working on this in the seventies. They had some intriguing results, but couldn't make it work consistently.
Posted by Plx1776
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 5:03 pm to
U.S. liberals believe that women have penises.
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 5:12 pm to
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I used to think so, but I haven't been wrong yet. Good job judging me yourself.. " douche"


It’s called confirmation bias, and FWIW I got the same read as the other guy.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 5:47 pm to
Thoughts are power and the more people think of one thing the more power they have. People absolutely have a connection.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 6:06 pm to
I'm a rational guy. But all I know is my intuition is so strong at times that my wife looks over at me after something happens that I told her would and says "I'm scared of you". It happens all the time.

Mock me all you want, but I KNOW my intuition is locked in and always has been. I'm not talking about earthquake dates, I'm talking about human behavior, sometimes weirdly specific. I just know how people will react to things and how things will be received. I'm good at figuring out in advance what the decision logic of specific people will be.

I think a lot about serendipity and karma and the importance of leaving room for random chance. The "magic" that often occurs when you know what to look for and you chat up the right people and you quickly build trust. There is just stuff that moves through the air that you can't quantify. And some people are just better than others at grabbing it out of the air.


Posted by MrCarton
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 6:08 pm to
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I'm more offended by this than I am at the shrimp treadmill


Yeah, it's close for me.


Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 7:02 pm to
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I believe we have a 6th sense...


I sure wish someone on the Georgia Bulldogs football team had it during the National Championship game.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:04 pm to


This post is for the following person from the other thread. Carrying it over here.

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IceTiger
Was this story in the other thread real? As someone posted a twitter feed and I went down a rabbit hole and saw that some have described aliens like this.

Creepy AF.

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:31 pm to
LINK

You asked about paranormal.

Apparently this isn't real but it's a great watch anyway. I should've fact checked before I posted.
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Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Yep. Some argue certain substances allow us to tune into things we otherwise could not perceive


Alcohol for example. It has helped me tune into women I wouldnt have normally considered.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:52 pm to
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There is just stuff that moves through the air that you can't quantify. And some people are just better than others at grabbing it out of the air.


My intuition is a major piece for my success in Executive Human Resources. I believe my intuition and other intangibles allowed me to connect dots more quickly than others and have a more complete picture of events.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:33 am to
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Some argue certain substances allow us to tune into things we otherwise could not perceive


LSD sure does.
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:43 pm to
Puthoff is referenced in The NY Times article in the OP

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Dr. Harold E. Puthoff is the co-founder and Vice President of Science and Technology of TTS Academy. Since 1985, Dr. Puthoff has served as President and CEO of EarthTech International, Inc. (ETI), and Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin (IASA). He has published numerous papers on electron-beam devices, lasers and space propulsion and has patents issued in the laser, communications, and energy fields. Dr. Puthoff’s professional background spans more than five decades of research at General Electric, Sperry, the National Security Agency, Stanford University and SRI International. Dr. Puthoff regularly advises NASA , the Department of Defense and intelligence communities, corporations and foundations on leading-edge technologies and future technology trends. He earned his Ph.D. from Stanford University in 1967 and won a Who’s Who Lifetime Achievement in 2017 that recognizes individuals that have achieved greatness in their industry and have excelled in their field for at least 20 years.


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A graduate of Stanford University in 1967, Dr. Puthoff's professional background spans more than four decades of research at General Electric, Sperry, the National Security Agency, Stanford University, SRI International, and, since 1985, as Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin. He has published numerous papers on electron-beam devices, lasers and quantum zero-point-energy effects, has patents issued in the laser, communications, and energy fields, and is co-author of a textbook Fundamentals of Quantum Electronics (Wiley, 1969). His awards and honors include a DoD Certificate of Commendation for Outstanding Performance. Puthoff regularly serves various corporations, government agencies, the Executive Branch and Congress as consultant on leading-edge technologies and future technology trends; is a member and officer of several professional organizations; is listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who's Who in Science and Engineering, and Who's Who in the World; and has been designated a Fetzer Fellow (1991).


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Harold E. Puthoff, Ph.D., (born 20 June 1936) is an American physicist who, earlier in his career was involved in research on paranormal topics. In 1967, Puthoff earned a Ph.D. from Stanford University.[citation needed] Puthoff is well known within gravitational physics circles[who?] for his papers on polarizable vacuum (PV) and stochastic electrodynamics topics, which are examples of alternative approaches to general relativity and quantum mechanics. In the 70s and 80s he directed a CIA/DIA-funded program at SRI International to investigate paranormal abilities, collaborating with Russell Targ in a study of the alleged psychic abilities of Uri Geller, Ingo Swann, Pat Price, Joseph McMoneagle and others. Both Puthoff and Russell Targ became convinced Geller and Swann had genuine psychic powers. More conventional explanations for the alleged abilities have also been advanced.


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Puthoff was once a United States Navy officer who was assigned to the National Security Agency (NSA), later becoming a civilian employee. Following a sabbatical at Stanford University to obtain his Ph.D., he joined SRI International where in 1972, together with Russell Targ, he founded a then-highly-classified, now-highly-publicised "remote viewing" program, originally called Project SCANATE, finally STAR GATE, which was funded over its two-decade-plus history by the CIA, DIA, and various military organizations. Puthoff has held high-level security clearances with the United States government.


The world may be stranger than we know/perceive...

What is the saying about advanced tech and magic...
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:44 pm to
A little something different...



slate

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MARCH 20 2017 7:02 AM
FROM SLATE, NEW AMERICA, AND ASU

A Martian State of Mind
Did the CIA really astrally project to Mars in 1984? We asked a psychic spy.

By Jacob Brogan


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By any ordinary standard, successfully sending humans to Mars would be an astonishing triumph—a world-historical feat for the nation (or corporation) that manages to pull it off first. Talk to the right people, though, and you might be surprised to learn that more than 30 years ago the U.S. military accomplished just that.


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You’ll find the evidence of it in a document freely available on the public “Reading Room” section of Central Intelligence Agency’s website. (Credit where it’s due: The friend who brought this treasure to my attention said he learned about it through the Mysterious Universe podcast.) Contextual details are scarce in the document, which goes under the unassuming title “Mars Exploration: May 22, 1984.” A brief explanatory note indicates that “the subject” was given a sealed envelope “immediately prior to the interview” but was instructed not to open it yet. During the interview itself, the subject only had verbal access to “[s]elected geographic coordinates, provided by the parties requesting the information.”




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In what follows, the conversation jumps around rapidly as the monitor directs the subject to investigate different coordinates, providing no other information. As the subject does, he describes some of the sites of interest that he notices, including a large “obelisk” that reminds him of the Washington Monument, “rounded bottom carved channels, like road beds,” and, most strikingly, “pyramids … like shelters from storms.” In those structures, he finds the shadowy people he had seen before, hibernating. “They’re an ancient people,” he tells the monitor. “They’re ah … they’re dying, it’s past their time or age.”


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According to an explanatory document about the Star Gate, available on the CIA’s site, the program sought to cultivate “psychoenergetics,” which it defines as “A Mental Process by which an Individual Perceives, Communicates with, and/or Perturbs Characteristics of a Designated Target, Person or Event Remote in Space and/or Time from that Individual.” (The unusual capitalization scheme is original to the document.) In particular, Star Gate focused on “remote viewing”—which involves using the mind alone to see thing that aren’t immediately present. The document proposes that “remote viewing” is “inherent to every human to some degree” and “Probably a vestigial form of self-preservation.”


This ties into what we discuss here...
Meme and threads like this work in a similar fashion
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:47 pm to
Government spent some cash on "remote viewing" which falls in line with this.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:48 pm to

Material/reductionist science has NO clue how to explain it...

Some believe that our minds are only receivers/filter of conciousness (that is universal/intereconnected).

If you start there, more of this becomes plausible...


https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-ufo-program-disclosure-aliens-poltergeist-top-secret-bigelow-948051

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PENTAGON’S SECRET UFO PROGRAM INVESTIGATED POLTERGEIST CONNECTION TO ALIEN MYSTERY
BY ANDREW WHALEN ON 5/29/18 AT 2:07 PM


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The investigative “I-Team” for CBS affiliate KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, NV has brought forward new documents related to the secret Pentagon UFO program first revealed by the New York Times in December. But even stranger than the documents, which delved into theoretical warp drive and extra-dimensional technologies, was the response provided to KLAS-TV by an unnamed “senior manager” within the program, who connected the Pentagon’s UFO program to poltergeists, “invisible entities” and “bizarre creatures.”


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The investigations by BAASS provided new lines of evidence showing that the UFO phenomenon was a lot more than nuts and bolts machines that interacted with military aircraft,” the senior manager said. “The phenomenon also involved a whole panoply of diverse activity that included bizarre creatures, poltergeist activity, invisible entities, orbs of light, animal and human injuries and much more.” The BAASS manager also described research methodologies tailored to explain multiple eyewitnesses reporting “widely different events.” The new methodology, premised on “utilizing the human body as a readout system for dissecting interactions with the UFO phenomenon,” was put in place because BAASS came to believe evidence indicated “the UFO phenomenon was capable of manipulating and distorting human perception,”


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BAASS, created specifically for the Pentagon contract, conducted research both from Bigelow Aerospace headquarters in North Las Vegas and an infamous Utah ranch, formerly owned by Robert Bigelow (ownership has since transferred to Adamantium Real Estate, who manages the property on behalf of an anonymous owner). Commonly known as Skinwalker Ranch, the 480-acre property has been the site of reported cattle mutilations, UFO sightings and “large, ferocious animals with piercing yellow eyes” that bullets couldn’t injure. From 1996 to 2004, Bigelow investigated paranormal phenomena at and around the ranch under the umbrella of his now defunct research group, the National Institute for Discovery Science.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 9/1/18 at 8:49 pm to
Regarding Extradimensional experiences and conciousness:

Broadly:

The human brain is like a television set that receives inputs. Under normal circumstances we can only receive a few stations that define our reality (perception=reality).

There are hacks that can expand our receivers that allow us to receive other inputs (that are always there, just not perceived).

Drugs (psychedelics)
Meditation /Holotrophic breathing
Technology

Strassman's work (government funded) (linked below) is very compelling. Multiple people reported similar experiences with beings (independent of one another...)

Ancient culture have used some of the above to commune with the spirit world:

-Native American of the southwest using peyote
-Amazon tribes using Ayahuasca
-Controversial.. Moses and the burning bush (theorized to be the Acacia plant which contains psychedelic compounds and is indingenous to that region)


Background for perspective:


The work of:


Rick Strassman

LINK

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Rick Strassman (born February 8, 1952 in Los Angeles, California) is a medical doctor specialized in psychiatry with a fellowship in clinical psychopharmacology research. He has held a fellowship in clinical psychopharmacology research at the University of California San Diego and was Professor of Psychiatry for eleven years at the University of New Mexico. [1] After twenty years of intermission, Strassman was the first person in the United States to undertake human research with psychedelic, hallucinogenic, or entheogenic substances with his research on N,N-dimethyltryptamine. He is also the author of the well known book "DMT: Spirit Molecule" which summarizes his academic research into DMT and includes his own reflections and conclusions based on this research.


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Psychedelic drug research[edit]
Strassman's studies, taking place between 1990 and 1995 in the General Clinical Research Center of the University of New Mexico Hospital, aimed to investigate the effects of N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a powerful psychedelic drug, that is found in hundreds of plants and every mammal that has been studied. DMT is made primarily in mammalian lung tissue, and is related to human neurotransmitter serotonin and the pineal hormone melatonin.

Strassman refers to DMT as the "spirit molecule" because its effects include many features of religious experience, such as visions, voices, disembodied consciousness, powerful emotions, novel insights, and feelings of overwhelming significance. During the project's five years, he administered approximately 400 doses of DMT to nearly five dozen human volunteers.[6][7] Strassman was the first to legally administer psychedelics to people in the United States in 20 years, and his research has widely been regarded as kicking off the "psychedelic renaissance", in which many psychedelic compounds have begun again to be scientifically studied since the early 70s.[8][9]

Strassman characterized biological and psychological effects in his first set of dose-response studies, effects consistent with activation of central and/or peripheral serotonin receptors.[10] His team published a companion article describing psychological effects and preliminary results of a new rating scale, the Hallucinogen Rating Scale, or HRS.[11] The HRS has seen wide acceptance throughout the international research community as a sensitive and specific instrument for measuring psychological effects of a wide variety of psychoactive substances, with over 45 articles documenting its use as of mid-2015. A follow-up DMT study demonstrated lack of tolerance to the psychological effects of repeated closely spaced doses of DMT, making DMT unique among classical psychedelics.[12]

More than half of Strassman’s volunteers reported profound encounters/interaction with non-human beings while in a dissociated state. Dr. Strassman has conjectured that when a person is approaching death or possibly when in a dream state, the body releases DMT in a relatively large amount, mediating some of the imagery reported by survivors of near-death experiences. However, there are no data correlating endogenous DMT activity to non-drug-related altered states of consciousness.[13] He also has theorized that the pineal gland may form DMT under certain conditions, and in 2013 researchers first reported DMT in the pineal gland microdialysate of rodents.[14]

He has detailed his research in his book DMT: The Spirit Molecule; and he co-produced a documentary film by the same name DMT: The Spirit Molecule, based on this book.[15] Dr. Strassman has also conducted similar research using psilocybin, a psychedelic alkaloid found in hallucinogenic mushrooms. In unpublished studies, he administered doses of up to 1.1 mg/kg, nearly three times the doses considered "psychedelic" in contemporary clinical research with this compound.[16] He also had permission to begin an LSD study, but he did not begin by the time he finished his DMT study.




Do you get a sense how the “phenomenons” are connected and how material science (as we perceive it) will never be able to fully figure it out...
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