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re: Tim Burchett Claims We Did Not Go to the Moon
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:39 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:39 pm to lake chuck fan
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I'm not saying one way or another, but Burchett doesn't seem to be a bullshitter.
Not at all
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:41 pm to Nurbis
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was a remote camera on the Lunar Rover. It was controlled by somebody in Houston.
And I don't buy that. There will have been a 2.6 second loop delay for anyone operating the camera from Houston. What you see on the film is too fluid for that, imo.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:49 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:51 pm to AlterEd
You, not Tim are clueless. Good luck.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:52 pm to AlterEd
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Whatever evidence you're claiming that the bolide impactors would have of being on Earth, the moon rocks would also have as soon as they're taken out of any sort of hermetically sealed container.
I was thinking of melted metals that had recooled after impact.
That wouldn't be on meteors that hit the moon because it doesn't have an atmosphere.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:53 pm to NC_Tigah
As I said before, my position on this has long been that they did both. That they sent the missions to the moon, but also that they faked a moon landing in a Hollywood studio in the event they were unsuccessful. They were determined to win the space race even if they had to fake it.
I've long been on the fence about it. But Burchett's words are interesting.
Images can be doctored, ya know. There is plenty of evidence out there that NASA doctors images before releasing them to the public.
I've long been on the fence about it. But Burchett's words are interesting.
Images can be doctored, ya know. There is plenty of evidence out there that NASA doctors images before releasing them to the public.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:56 pm to AlterEd
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And I don't buy that. There will have been a 2.6 second loop delay for anyone operating the camera from Houston. What you see on the film is too fluid for that, imo.
I feel like if people at NASA can build rockets and space shuttles to fly into space, they could probably figure out how to overcome a 2.5-second feed delay.
AI Overview
Apollo 17's remote camera, controlled by NASA operator Ed Fendell in Houston, accounted for the ~2.5-second round-trip signal delay by sending the camera's tilt-up command precisely 2 seconds before the scheduled ascent. Using a fixed-speed motor and a pre-calculated time-and-angle chart, the camera was set in advance on the Lunar Rover, positioned at a precise distance to follow the ascent, resulting in the successful video footage of the launch.
Pre-planning: Previous missions had issues; Apollo 16 was too close, and the camera could not pan fast enough. For Apollo 17, they optimized the camera placement on the rover, allowing a better view.
The camera was operated via radio control from Houston, and with a 3-5 second total round trip delay (transmission + reaction time), the commands had to be predicted and sent early.
Execution: Operator Ed Fendell did not watch the video in real-time, but used a stopwatch, sending the commands based on when the crew said, "4 seconds to lift off" (Pro).
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:56 pm to AlterEd
quote:A NASA controller in Houston manually aimed the camera using predicted launch timing and trajectory. Because radio signals from the Moon take about 1.3 seconds each way, there was a delay, so they had to anticipate the motion rather than react instantly.
And I don't buy that. There will have been a 2.6 second loop delay for anyone operating the camera from Houston. What you see on the film is too fluid for that, imo.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:58 pm to AlterEd
quote:The first images are FROM AN INDIAN MISSION
Images can be doctored, ya know. There is plenty of evidence out there that NASA doctors images
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:58 pm to AlterEd
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As I said before, my position on this has long been that they did both. That they sent the missions to the moon, but also that they faked a moon landing in a Hollywood studio in the event they were unsuccessful. They were determined to win the space race even if they had to fake it.
I've long been on the fence about it. But Burchett's words are interesting.
Images can be doctored, ya know. There is plenty of evidence out there that NASA doctors images before releasing them to the public.
Jesus Christ almighty
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:59 pm to NC_Tigah
Yeah, I still don't buy it.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:02 pm to NC_Tigah
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The first images are FROM AN INDIAN MISSION
Ok, and?
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:04 pm to GRTiger
Neil Armstrong. I guess they had another remote camera there to film him taking the first ever steps on the moon?
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:06 pm to AlterEd
I don't want to fight with you on this. We're forever very far apart here. That's perfectly fine.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:10 pm to AlterEd
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Ok, and?
So, the Indians faked the Apollo 11 & 12 landing evidence?
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:11 pm to GRTiger
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I don't want to fight with you on this
It isn't worth fighting over. What Burchett said is interesting. Whether a person wants to admit it or not, there are compelling arguments to be made both ways. Which is why I have been on the fence about it. As usual though, what's most interesting to me is how vehement and even insulting people get if someone questions the official narrative.
I'm personally still undecided. But I think that what Burchett says is interesting and I hope someone follows up with him about it.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:12 pm to AlterEd
Why are Republicans starting to act bat-shite crazy like the evil-assed DemoRats? We don't need the circus after we just got rid of Margaret Traitor Green.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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So, the Indians faked the Apollo 11 & 12 landing evidence?
They're an ally of ours and I assume they know how to use Photoshop as well.
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:15 pm to Lutcher Lad
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Why are Republicans starting to act bat-shite crazy like the evil-assed DemoRats?
Maybe truth is indeed stranger than fiction?
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:21 pm to AlterEd
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Neil Armstrong. I guess they had another remote camera there to film him taking the first ever steps on the moon?
That is Buzz Aldrin.
Neil Armstrong is the photographer!
Armstrong was filmed by a prepackaged apparatus attached to the LEM. While standing on the platform at the top of the descent ladder Armstrong pulled a lanyard that released a swinging mount, positioning the camera to face the ladder. Aldrin activated the camera with a switch inside the LEM.
The camera had to be mounted upside down and at an 11-degree angle to fit the space. Technicians at ground stations on Earth flipped the electronic signal before broadcasting it.
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