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re: Tigerdropping’s Democrats Thoughts On Censorship
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:12 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:12 pm to Sentrius
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Not when they call their company a platform as opposed to being a publisher.
They can't have it both ways.
The distinction exists nowhere in the law or jurisprudence. It’s nonsense.
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Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:13 pm to chRxis
Today the right tomorrow will be you.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:20 pm to chRxis
quote:i've created numerous threads over the last 6 weeks trying to get the left to explain precisely what that is. on rare occasions i can get a few ideas but never, not once has anyone explained HOW those ideas actually make america better.
we just have differing opinions on what that should look like
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:24 pm to oklahogjr
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How exactly are all these different platforms like amazon, google, facebook,twitter a monopoly?
They each control a giant share of their prospective market which gives them the power to stifle competitors.
It's an effective business model, but the social media bannings from today are not driven by profits. They are driven by message control.
"Start your own conservative social media platform".
Here comes Parler.
Oops, we dont like who and what your members are saying on our servers, so we are cutting you out.
Fine.
Ban radical blm and antifa posts and its all good.
Leave them up, Efff offf.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:25 pm to marchballer
quote:so you're ok with the mi s.o.s. telling vote counters to run already counted votes through the machine again? because if you aren't (and no reasonable person would be), that information is swiftly being censored on the internet. you're ok with your access to information, i.e. your liberty, being diminished?
Given that my freedom of speech isn’t being limited and these companies side with my view points. I have no problem with it.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:26 pm to oklahogjr
quote:that's curious. is that really happening? of course not
You mean free market capitalism with no interference?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:28 pm to cave canem
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TD banhammer
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There is zero effective difference in the TD banhammer and twitters
yeah, the latter gets used with impunity. meanwhile on the pb, idiots like cave canem are running around trashing up the place, not responding to facts.Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:29 pm to cwill
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1A applies to pvt biz.
I dont recall it being a big issue until progs made it one in Obamas admin.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:30 pm to tigerfan 64
quote:and there goes parler.
Here comes Parler.
we hardly knew ye
these people are literally shilling for the leaders who are censoring their access to information
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:31 pm to unotiger21
They'll become Tactical Libertarians.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:33 pm to unotiger21
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Come on, it’s every single social media. This was coordinated.
I don't know about that but it's definitely possible.
Most of those tech firms are extremely left wing
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:33 pm to tigerfan 64
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If one monopoly is bad, they all are bad. The rules apply to all. Enforce the rules equally or remove them.
If dems want a free for all, let em have it. But it needs to be free for ALL.
No selective protections or prosecutions.
again, you still aren't seeing it... let's start over.... are you a small government, Conservative Republican?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:33 pm to beerJeep
quote:
You know they are nothing alike, why do you insist on acting like they are?
Both twitter's and tigerdroppings band worked the same for me.
I was locked out of my account and couldn't post.
No difference.
And you well know it...
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:34 pm to beerJeep
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Facebook has expanded well beyond just a social media company. They have their tentacles in all kinds of shite and are doing the exact same thing google and apple are doing..
Facebook and Google aren’t even close to the same.
Facebook’s portfolio includes:
- Facebook (duh)
- Oculus VR
They have made other acquisitions, but those have either been rolled into their core brands (social media or VR techs) or they are effectively research projects that have not been monetized.
Alphabet, on the other hand..
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:35 pm to bfniii
Yeah I wish we could have legit discussions but never seems to pan out. This has actually been constructive - most posters at least.
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:37 pm to tigerfan 64
quote:
Here comes Parler.
Oops, we dont like who and what your members are saying on our servers, so we are cutting you out.
that's free market capitalism, bro... businesses do business with other businesses, until they don't...
but beside that fact, what's your remedy? what's your solution to the problem of tech companies getting too big...
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:38 pm to inelishaitrust
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Twitter is a private business and has the right to refuse service.
Just going to ignore the ole publisher vs platform issue?
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:39 pm to cwill
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I’ve seen the platform/publisher insanity for the last 2 years along with the belief that 1A applies to pvt biz.
no, I know... I was just kidding with you... you are a poster I really like and side with on a lot of issues
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:41 pm to cwill
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The distinction exists nowhere in the law or jurisprudence
I'm guessing rush limbaugh made it up and now they're all stuck on it
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:42 pm to Sentrius
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Not when they call their company a platform as opposed to being a publisher.
They can't have it both ways.
I don't like what's going down right now, but I think it's necessary to clear up this misunderstanding. Section 230 of the CDA makes no legal distinction between platforms and publishers, and in fact no distinction exists anywhere in US federal law. It's a straw man that was constructed in the wake of the 2016 election, derived from legislation that originally had nothing to do with internet censorship and makes no such distinction. The fact that lawyers like Ted Cruz have bought into the myth doesn't make it true.
Here's an article that explains everything in detail:
LINK
Much as I think this is setting a terrible precedent, there's absolutely nothing illegal about it. Twitter and Facebook censorship is perfectly legal under current US law.
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