re: Thousands go without water as Detroit cuts service

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You do realize that Lake Erie water is used for drinking water right? Or that the lake "turns itself over" approx. every 2.6 years due to the shallow depth of the lake. She can fetch her own damn water...

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I joke because the thing Lake Erie is most notorious for is being set on fricking fire due to all the shite in it during the 70s.

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I'll help you out with the first one. Detroit has a population of about 700,000 close to that of Boston. The DWSD employs over 1,700 people with an average compensation over $80,000 annually. Boston employs about 500.

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I would have to see the actual customer bases for the utilities to really compare, but it is also a different reason from the "lib" and free loader" accusation in the other post. 1700 does seem about 700 too high pretty easily.

Now why the water utility ever stopped shutting off water for non-payment altogether is a mystery. Its almost a safety issue.

It's not a mystery. When I moved, I forgot to change my account # in my online bill pay. Long story short, water was cut off 2 months later.

Worked it out with them cause they did get paid but the moral of the story is, don't pay your bills cause yo nails is did... No more service.

OK. I really have little sympathy with those not paying their water bills.

That said. Let me play a bit of Devil's advocate. Could it not be argued that of all the stupid assed shite governments spend money on that they have no business spending money on, isn't it possible to call water a "basic service" similar to police, fire etc?

I could almost get on board if someone argued govt should provide water service if they would then accept my pretty restrictive view of where govt should NOT be participating?

For example. It appears the state is contributing something in excess of $300M to keep Detroit Arts funding afloat.

I don't doubt that these run down homes have leaky pipes, running toilets and the like.

That drives up high water bills in no time...We've all probably had to call the water utility company in our lifetime to dispute a high bill.

In NC, you get charged water and sewer from your water meter usage. So running water isn't sewer usuage.. but you can usually make the argument and they adjust the bill. If you are months behind, you get the violin treatment

You have to fight to have your bills lowered while repairs are made.

These things up to individuals (tenants)...hold the landlord accountable for repairs...My guess is, the poor people are months behind rent as well...

That said, pay your bills! I mean come on...seeing the lady with the large TV who is way behind in her water bill? I just have nothing but tough love.

Meanwhile Chris Hayes of MSNBC is asking tough questions " How did America get so hard hearted it's now turning water off on the poorest among us?"


Why don't we ask better questions? "Why don't you have the money?"

Lets address the cash flow ..

but no, we scream "Human right crimes"

My gosh, in the old west they would just shoot such annoying stupidity..."I'm done with your bellyachin' "

It's embarrassing these folks on the evening news, fat, tattoed, big tv's and un paid water bills.

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That said. Let me play a bit of Devil's advocate. Could it not be argued that of all the stupid assed shite governments spend money on that they have no business spending money on, isn't it possible to call water a "basic service" similar to police, fire etc?

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You're going to pay for it either way through monthly payments or taxes. At least under the current model you have some control over your liability.

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All these people can argue that they are entitled to these things like water, but nature will disagree every time. You are entitled to shite. If you cannot provide for your basic needs you die.

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That doesn't sound like a very Christian attitude.

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That doesn't sound like a very Christian attitude.

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You sure? I thought in your eyes christians are evil and don't care.

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That doesn't sound like a very Christian attitude.

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Well, I'm not religious and I agree with him.

You aren't entitled anything in life and just because you believe you are doesn't mean that there aren't consequences when you neglect to pay. These individuals knew they owed money, yet they did not pay it.

On top of that, they own items and have spent money on things which are clearly above their current situation in life.

On top of everything else, maybe she shouldn't have had kids with a guy or guys that don't care if their kids live without running water.

Seems to me like she might have a good bit do with the bad spot she is in.