re: Thoughts on kids and school lunches

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I submit that one reason we need more foster parents is that we have too many incompetent parents and one of the reasons we have so many incompetent parents is because we subsidized incompetent parenting.

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Fair point.

So... how do we stop that?

How do we stop dumb, poor kids from having unprotected sex and getting knocked up? Because if you want to talk about the base of the problem... that's it.

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MAY 21, 2019 — The amount spent per pupil for public elementary and secondary education (prekindergarten through 12th grade) for all 50 states and the District of Columbia increased by 3.7% to $12,201 per pupil during the 2017 fiscal year,

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Average Private School Tuition Cost. The national average private school tuition is approximately $10,676 per year (2019-20). The private elementary school average is $9,638 per year and the private high school average is $14,522 per year.

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So private HS costs more than public, and public elementary costs less than public. Sounds about right.

Also, you are talking about average costs. We all know the average private school pretty much sucks. That's why they have room for voucher kids... The good ones (the ones who don't take vouchers) cost more.

They are all too fat. Take away any food at school. Metamucil water out of the water fountains.

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How do we stop dumb, poor kids from having unprotected sex and getting knocked up?

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You don't "stop" it.

But, you DO recognize that there is ABSOLUTELY a subset in this group who didn't get "knocked up"..........they WANTED to get pregnant and go on aid. I've known these people personally. They PLAN it.

You will never reduce the number of morons who just get pregnant to zero, but, you probably should try and keep that number to just the morons and not add to it.

So, when welfare mom doesn't feed her kid, take her fricking welfare........and, if necessary, her meal ticket. That message will get out. Trust me.

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So private HS costs more than public, and public elementary costs less than public. Sounds about right.

Also, you are talking about average costs. We all know the average private school pretty much sucks. That's why they have room for voucher kids... The good ones (the ones who don't take vouchers) cost more.

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What's your point?

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I'm referring to the fact that even by charging kids, they cost more than the revenue charged.

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Here's something you may not know about the school lunch program.

Part of every child's lunch is funded by the feds. Even the ones who pay.

Let's say the per-child lunch cost is $2.40. Let's say they charge $1.25. The feds are already paying for $1.15 of every child's meal. Then, the feds kick in an extra $1.25 per child for every child on free lunch. Let's say the reduced price is 40 cents. Then, the feds kick in an extra 85 cents per child for those kids.

That's how government funding works - you charge less than the actual cost, because the funding handles the difference.

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Here's something you may not know about the school lunch program.

Part of every child's lunch is funded by the feds. Even the ones who pay.

Let's say the per-child lunch cost is $2.40. Let's say they charge $1.25. The feds are already paying for $1.15 of every child's meal. Then, the feds kick in an extra $1.25 per child for every child on free lunch. Let's say the reduced price is 40 cents. Then, the feds kick in an extra 85 cents per child for those kids.

That's how government funding works - you charge less than the actual cost, because the funding handles the difference.

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Let me help you out here.

You just described government math.

I can GUARANTEE you that included in that "cost of providing lunch" to the kids..........you will NOT find........

Kitchen equipment and mainteance
Electrical expenses
Increased fire insurance caused by large scale cooking
FULL cost of the employees who provide the lunch
etc
etc
etc

It's a money loser

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What I am saying is that there aren't enough foster parents in the system now, to handle the demand we have.

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I submit that being in an orphanage is greater than being with an adult who can't be bothered to feed you.

Just sayin

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But I don't want to move a kid from a bad situation to a worse one

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Can you describe this "worse" situation than being with the type of parents who sincerely feed you so little that we think it's an emergency to ensure you're fed at school?

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And foster care, you say is bad... but it's better than a state home, which is where most of the kids will end up. Get ready for that cost...

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And, BOTH of those are better than being with the type of parents who sincerely feed you so little that we think it's an emergency to ensure you're fed at school

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It's a money loser

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Maybe it is semantics, but everything is obviously being paid for.

You seem to be advocating for dismantling the school lunch program.

I'm not at that place. I still think it provides a lot of benefits.

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I submit that being in an orphanage is greater than being with an adult who can't be bothered to feed you.

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Interesting. I disagree.

But at least I am seeing your point of view, which I do appreciate, even if I disagree with it