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re: Thomas Massie: Final signature to release Epstein Petition J6: Pens Letter to Patel

Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:14 pm to
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No hes not.


Trumps not even close to "America First" anymore.

Which is why he's shedding popularity
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:35 pm to
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I think you missed the point. She is going to outspend him 10 to 1.


I think you're missing the point. Massie is STILL going to win despite the outside money flowing in.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:37 pm to
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I think you're missing the point. Massie is STILL going to win despite the outside money flowing in.

Hes polling in the teens with primary voters. Indies and leftists wont save him in May

Lulz
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9007 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:40 pm to
Link?

NVM. Looked it up. You're right. I still think he'll win.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8528 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:39 pm to
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I have seen democrats declaring one more signature is needed and it is all over for Trump. Now I see what they meant.


What happened to MTG and all of the victims and their client lists they were going to release? Didn't she say she was going to announce the names on the House floor?
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
450 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:44 pm to
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What I do know is a foreign government is allowed to have lobbying that isn't registered as a foreign government, magically after LBJ gets into office after the Kennedy assassination. And now, like 90% of those in office, on both "sides" are backed by that organization.
Not to derail this thread, but only in reference to yours, Kennedy was also dead set against Israel having nuclear weapons. Johnson never made it a subject of interest.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162921 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:55 pm to
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This will be a good test of America First vs MAGA. My money is on America First and Massie.
So you are a card carrying neocon, neverTrumper, or what?

What has Massie done to make America first, much less great? He should run for President again with DeSantis and fail again. Then maybe he will STFU, no?

So the man that created and put MAGA into action is who exactly? A loser Massie that has done nothing but stop MAGA can GFH.

AG and Dep AG deny WSJ hit piece we know Seraphin and Massie 'inspired'

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Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:07 pm to
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Massie also stumped for Kevin McCarthy on the floor of the House when the same folks knighting for him now were lambasting McCarthy at the time of the campaign/vote to oust him as Speaker. I guess those same folks will continue to wildly come up with excuses for these strange about faces from the guy.


As if Omnibus Johnson is some vast improvement over McCarthy? Agree or disagree with Massie’s backing of McCarthy, Massie supported McCarthy based on principles since McCarthy preferred passing individual spending bills rather than pork-laden omnibus packages.

Opposing such omnibus bills aligns with the Freedom Caucus’s hardline budgetary goals. Now, you can disagree with Massie’s tactics or criticize Massie’s refusal to compromise, yet anyone who claims Massie aligns with progressives to undermine Trump is a low information voter.

Indeed, I don’t need to “white-knight” for Thomas Massie. For the umpteenth time, Massie’s voting record speaks for itself.

Massie is by far the most conservative member of Congress — if by “conservative” you mean someone who consistently supports the principles of limited government. That is NOT open to debate and anyone claiming otherwise is a fool or a tool.

This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 5:13 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:37 pm to
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Massie is by far the most conservative member of Congress

Hes not

He has you fooled

Lets look back in our time machine to see who was the most virulent in trying to keep moderate Kevin McCarthy as speaker. MTG, Garrett Graves, and Thomas Massie. Now look where those 3 are. MTG is going on the View and CNN to trash Trump, the GOP leadership (Johnson and Scalise got Graves drawn out of the House), and Massie is the point dog on all things NeverTrump. The Bible says "you shall know them by their fruits"

So heres a fruity refresher
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The Stomach-Churning Story of How Kevin McCarthy and Marjorie Taylor Greene Became BFFs. “I will never leave that woman” is an actual thing the Speaker has said about his conspiracy-theory-loving pal.

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How life is going for this former McCarthy deputy: Not great. Republicans in the Bayou State are privately saying that Garret Graves made too many enemies, both in Washington and back home.

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Rep. Thomas Massie on Friday said the decision by conservative lawmakers to replace former Speaker Kevin McCarthy was a major misstep. “Switching from McCarthy to Johnson was the biggest mistake I’ve seen conservatives make in my decade of serving in Congress,

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., later tried to remove Speaker Johnson, though he managed to survive the effort against him.

Massie stupidly admitted that actual conservatives took out McCarthy, and that he didnt see himself as one of them
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162921 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:42 pm to
Massie is a neverTrumper thinly disguised with the libertarian mantle. Conservative, my arse.
Posted by Lighteningbolt
Member since Oct 2025
229 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Trump is right. Epstein List is Russiagate Hoax 2.0. Y'all please stop being stupid and crying about Epstein.
Not a cult.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23641 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Hes not

He has you fooled


By any objective measure, he most certainly does.

Again, you can criticize Massie’s tactics to promote his Liberty agenda or likewise criticize his refusal to compromise yet Massie’s voting record speaks for itself.

In a just world, Massie’s voting record would serve as a model for the MAGA movement on how to return this country to fiscal sanity and likewise limit the power of the Deep State:



republicanlibertycaucus/2023-house-liberty-index

libertyscore/conservativereview.con

thenewamerican.com/freedom-index

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297478 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:01 pm to
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Massie is a neverTrumper thinly disguised with the libertarian mantle.



Anyone liberty minded will dislike trump.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23641 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:02 pm to
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Massie is a neverTrumper thinly disguised with the libertarian mantle. Conservative, my arse.


Et tu CA?

The cruelest blow!

But u know deep down I will always luv ‘ya!

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:10 pm to
We've covered this before

That scorecard doesnt include his committee votes against his fellow conservatives, his attempting to sabotage Scalia and Mike Johnson, his Epstein BS, his enlisting DIM help to go after Trump, his constant attention seeking posts and speeches to undercut the MAGA agenda
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91697 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:25 pm to
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Not a cult.
ok DU shill
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38574 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:27 pm to
I mean he has a point

You seemed to care a lot about this list until your orange daddy told you not to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23641 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:28 pm to
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That scorecard doesnt include his committee votes against his fellow conservatives, his attempting to sabotage Scalia and Mike Johnson, his Epstein BS, his enlisting DIM help to go after Trump, his constant attention seeking posts and speeches to undercut the MAGA agenda


I certainly understand the argument that Massie’s steadfast refusal to compromise on principles is akin to cutting of your nose to spite your face. But at that point, you are discussing Massie’s tactics and not his voting record.



Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91697 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:28 pm to
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You seemed to care a lot about this list until your orange daddy told you not to
the list the Dems just voted to withhold?

That list?
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