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re: Thomas Massie endorses Gov. DeSantis for President
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:53 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:53 pm to rmnldr
One of my favorite guys in Congress.
Most republicans see Trump as the blowhard he is and understand he can not get re-elected.
I don’t care what poll jjdoc reads—Trump ain’t gonna win the nomination.
Most republicans see Trump as the blowhard he is and understand he can not get re-elected.
I don’t care what poll jjdoc reads—Trump ain’t gonna win the nomination.
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:54 pm to Jjdoc
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Yep. With DeSantis's signature on the EO.
But, as we both know, this doesn't support your bullshite claims.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:59 pm to Jjdoc
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Oh come on 808, you are better than that. You know damn well I can produce the EO that delegated the powers to various state organizations.
What was Trump’s OSHA and CDC doing while DeSantis was putting people on cattle cars?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:00 pm to the808bass
June 23, 2020 at 4:15 PM
DeSantis says Florida will get tougher on businesses breaking rules
That power was given to them by DeSantis and DeSantis is in the room telling you and anybody in FL
You can't erase hisotry
LINK
forgot the link
DeSantis says Florida will get tougher on businesses breaking rules
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Gov. Ron DeSantis says the “grim reaper” is coming for Florida businesses that aren’t following the state’s guidelines to prevent coronavirus spread.
By that, he means stripping business licenses “because there’s not going to be any tolerance for it.”
South Florida’s two largest counties have been sending the same message. Miami-Dade and Broward have both hit businesses with warnings and citations, with some shut down until they could prove they were complying with the emergency order.
The governor was joined by Halsey Beshears, secretary of Florida’s department of business and professional regulation, who said they will be suspending licenses of businesses who are flagrantly breaking the rules.
“If you’re not willing to do that then you’re going to get a visit here from, I guess he’ll be the grim reaper in terms of business licenses,” DeSantis said of Beshears.
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“I have contacted several sheriffs. I’m going to continue to do that throughout the state,” Beshears said. “We have ABT [Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco] officers that are going to be out from 5 p.m.-1 a.m. checking on these bars and restaurants that are in violation of this.
That power was given to them by DeSantis and DeSantis is in the room telling you and anybody in FL
You can't erase hisotry
LINK
forgot the link
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:02 pm to Jjdoc
We had this discussion a couple days ago. And then you had to admit you had no real point. So I’ll just say it for you and save us both five posts back and forth.
You have no real point.
You have no real point.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:03 pm to Jjdoc
Can you even articulate how or why you are dredging up articles from 3 Junes ago?
Or is it just a part of your retention agreement with the DNC?
No one rational that supports Trump is going to try and out flank DeSantis on Covid. Trump’s administration was a total disaster on covid in pretty much every way.
Or is it just a part of your retention agreement with the DNC?
No one rational that supports Trump is going to try and out flank DeSantis on Covid. Trump’s administration was a total disaster on covid in pretty much every way.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:05 pm to the808bass
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What was Trump’s OSHA and CDC doing while DeSantis was putting people on cattle cars?
Well.. let's see. Trump gutted OSHA in 2017
Then in 2020, Forbes wrote an article complaining that OSHA could not inspect for Covid because Trump gutted it.
Worker Dangers Up As Trump OSHA Cuts Come Home To Roost, Say AFL-CIO Exec, Ex-DOL Official
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ncreased dangers to workers are coming home to roost from the Trump Administration’s weakening of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), say a key AFL-CIO executive and a former Department of Labor official.
Under Trump, OSHA has the lowest level of inspections in its 50-year history while the economy has grown, the two point out.
OSHA staffers don’t have legal authority to inspect workplaces for coronavirus and other infectious disease dangers, he asserted.
He notes the Obama Administration started to develop OSHA comprehensive infectious disease standards in 2009.
“We were making progress,” says the former official.
But when Donald Trump became president, OSHA leadership took the initiative off the active regulatory rule making agenda and put it on the long-term backburner.
Youy have something different that I do not know about?
LINK
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:08 pm to Jjdoc
Jesus Christ. That’s embarrassing. The entire Covid testing apparatus was shoved down our throats through OSHA. You fricking dishonest shitbag.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:09 pm to the808bass
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We had this discussion a couple days ago. And then you had to admit you had no real point.
No.. I never admitted I do not have a point. His words, his actions through EOs is right there.
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So I’ll just say it for you and save us both five posts back and forth.
No, what you are saying 808 is it was OK for him to lock down his state.. It was ok to go after businesses in July for breaking his covid rules and pull their business licensees.
Are you saying NONE of that happened?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:11 pm to Jjdoc
You’re trying to rewrite history and it’s embarrassing. Not for you. But it is.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:11 pm to Jjdoc
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You let JJdoc lead you astray with the "DeSantis is not running talking point".
I never stated that he was not running.
Yes you have.
I can easily go back and look.
You have said this multiple times.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:16 pm to the808bass
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That’s embarrassing. The entire Covid testing apparatus was shoved down our throats through OSHA. You fricking dishonest shitbag.
I asked what you had. Is this it? Got a link showing that businesses were force to mandate testing?
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:18 pm to Jjdoc
If you didn’t already know that, you have no business posting about anything Covid related.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:19 pm to rmnldr
Perhaps DeSantis will promote dissolving the FBI & DOJ:
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:22 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I think everyone here will agree that I’m not usually a meaningless congressional hearing guy, a conspiracy guy, or particularly receptive to various theories about J6/2020 etc.
But if Garland/DOJ cannot or will not answer “No” to Massie’s question of whether federal asserts encouraged protestors to enter the Capitol building, that is a major problem.
But if Garland/DOJ cannot or will not answer “No” to Massie’s question of whether federal asserts encouraged protestors to enter the Capitol building, that is a major problem.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:28 pm to Jjdoc
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That power was given to them by DeSantis
No, it wasn't. Those counties didn't act under the authority of any EOs to make arrests.
Stop lying, Jjhogg.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:34 pm to VolcanicTiger
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What, did something happen during this time out of the ordinary? Something of a pandemic nature?
Only if you're a Covidian or soft AF, is this considered an excuse.
Moreover, while the Covid ruse got Trump spending at record levels, he was spending way too much pre-2020, unless you're a big gov't liberal.
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:34 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Perhaps DeSantis will promote dissolving the FBI & DOJ:
Chapter 14: Power in a Post-Constitutional Order of DeSantis’ The Courage to Be Free
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The framers structured the Constitution to prevent the consolidation of power. They divided power between three different branches of government, armed each branch with the ability to check and balance the others, and reserved most authority to the states that had preexisted the Constitution’s creation.
This structure has been eroded over the years such that there is now a massive concentration of power in what has effectively become an unaccountable fourth branch of government: the federal administrative state. To make matters worse, the rise of “woke” capitalism has witnessed large, powerful corporations engaging in political activism to such an extent that some exercise quasi public authority. The upshot of this is that an enormous amount of power has been concentrated in ways that are not readily accountable to the people.
This is what James Madison and other Founding Fathers feared. The concentration of power in this post-constitutional arrangement has made individuals less free, empowered elites who reject core American values, and exacerbated divisions in our society.
The revival of a free society rooted in the foundations of basic American principles requires a recognition of how things have gone wrong, but also an understanding of how to set society on a better course.
Limiting the size and scope of the government and bringing the administrative state to heel requires prudent use of political power. The failure to robustly wield authority permits the unaccountable Leviathan to metastasize. This applies both to Congress utilizing the full extent of its Article I powers, such as the power of the purse, as well as an energetic executive who is fully committed to re-constitutionalizing the executive power under Article II.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:58 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 4/5/23 at 5:58 pm to rmnldr
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This structure has been eroded over the years such that there is now a massive concentration of power in what has effectively become an unaccountable fourth branch of government: the federal administrative state. To make matters worse, the rise of “woke” capitalism has witnessed large, powerful corporations engaging in political activism to such an extent that some exercise quasi public authority. The upshot of this is that an enormous amount of power has been concentrated in ways that are not readily accountable to the people.
Most excellent.
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