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re: This will leave a mark! Obama avg approval rating: Lower than Nixon, or Bushes

Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:22 pm to
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Fake news is exactly what it is - at least based on the Trump/Poli board definition.

Presenting information that may technically be factual, but presented in such a way as to push an agenda and is intellectually dishonest or disingenuous.




It says average rating. What's wrong with the average over a term? Nothing disingenuous about that at all.

Cry more...
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:22 pm to
Let's be honest. His election was historic, and in his 8 years he did nothing to help the main reason he was elected. In fact, he made the situation worse. I think even liberals know this.
Posted by Rekrul
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:23 pm to
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behind only Reagan and Clinton.


After being impeached in such an embarrassing way. Liberals truly have no morals, yikes!
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:24 pm to
Obama will be remembered very favorably, and much more so than many of the Presidents he's listed behind in the Fake News in the OP. His approval rating at the end of his presidency, along with the upward trend of said approval rating over the course of his second term is evidence of such.

You can name two presidents that finished on as high of a note as Obama, and those two are widely considered to be the two greatest presidents of the 20th century.

Deal with it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:26 pm to
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Why? He was brilliant in the immediate aftermath of the attacks. Brilliant. His approval ratings didn't magically spike to 90% because Americans randomly started liking him. They spiked in response to his brilliance.
I agree, but it's what is called an intervention" in time-series analysis that impacts the interpretation of all other aspects (trend,seasonality, etc.). It fundamentally changes the dataset, so it is different than any other president in this case.

I'm not saying to discredit it, but it's just an outlying event that (luckily) nobody else can be compared to. It just makes a direct comparison trickier than everybody else.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:27 pm to
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After being impeached in such an embarrassing way. Liberals truly have no morals, yikes!


His impeachment didn't negatively impact the lives of the American people.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Let's be honest. His election was historic, and in his 8 years he did nothing to help the main reason he was elected. In fact, he made the situation worse. I think even liberals know this.


It is the main factor in President Trump being elected. Deep down these leftist tards understand this which makes their melting all the more enjoyable. They brought all of this on themselves. They sat on their hands hero worshiping a con man that didn't deliver squat but around a 1000 house and senate seats, both federal and state, and a number of gubernatorial seats right into the hands of the Republicans.

He is the single biggest factor in slow swirl of the dems around the toilet bowl.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Presenting information that may technically be factual, but presented in such a way as to push an agenda and is intellectually dishonest or disingenuous.


Welcome to every day Main Stream News.
The new Ministry of Propaganda.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:29 pm to
#alternativefacts

Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:30 pm to
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It is the main factor in President Trump being elected. Deep down these leftist tards understand this which makes their melting all the more enjoyable.
Maybe, but I suspect if it was him instead of Hillary, the outcome may have been very different, which means it's hard to put it solely on him as much as say Bush in 2008, which made everybody with an R toxic--whether fair or not.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:30 pm to
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is there a link to this data?

Well, since the chart was titled "Gallup poll averages". Did you really need the link?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:31 pm to
Nah, someone else posted it. Data is legit, thanks
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:37 pm to
This was like a bat signal for the libs

So mad
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:38 pm to
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Maybe, but I suspect if it was him instead of Hillary, the outcome may have been very different, which means it's hard to put it solely on him as much as say Bush in 2008, which made everybody with an R toxic--whether fair or not.


The loss of all those seats is all the barometer one needs to make a judgment. Had nothing to do with Hillary and was an indictment on him and his policy.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:39 pm to
Down - Republican
Up - Democrat
Down - Republican
Up - Democrate
Repeat
Repeat

Who collects and reports that data? Oh yes, Democrats. Must be legit.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:39 pm to
I thought we didn't believe polls?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:40 pm to
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The loss of all those seats is all the barometer one needs to make a judgment. Had nothing to do with Hillary and was an indictment on him and his policy.
Maybe, but then it's counter-intuitive how well he was liked. I personally think he was maybe the only positive thing viewed on the left by 2016, whether he should have been or not.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:41 pm to
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You can name two presidents that finished on as high of a note as Obama, and those two are widely considered to be the two greatest presidents of the 20th century.

Deal with it.

And the the very next chapter in that history book will cover the election of the 1st non-military, non-politician president because of the state of the union. As well as the overwhelming losses in governance of Obama's political party in the states, House and Senate. Plus, Obama being the ONLY president to never to reach 3% GDP growth. And the kicker, 1st president to ever be re-elected with less popular votes, and less EC votes**


**Well, technically it wont be the next paragraph, because you paragraph will never be written
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 7:43 pm to
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I thought we didn't believe polls?


You are such a passive-aggressive pansy. For once in your life maybe just own your opinions and feelings instead of all this faux "I'm moderate" outrage you vomit around here. If you can not even own your own opinions/feelings on an anonymous message board I would hate to see how timid you are in real life.
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