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re: This Operation Will Not Work

Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:01 am to
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All this guy does is sling arrows but hardly ever offers alternatives to the arguments he is shitting on.


Don't be a neocon like Trump promised he wouldn't be, is the alternative.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:03 am to
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giving me
SlowJerkingOffPro putting in work.
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:04 am to
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neocon


Most overused word this weekend.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
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15427 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:04 am to
Trump isn’t a neocon - a neocon would be planning on making this a long war and then take over - this will be over in a few weeks and Iran will be an ally - China is weakened even more. This is a masterclass on winning. But isolationist morons are clueless how the world works
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28840 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:04 am to
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All this guy does is sling arrows but hardly ever offers alternatives to the arguments he is shitting on.


I like SFP and think he is an intelligent person. I sort of think he has a form of autism or something in certain ways though, he can be extremely knowledgeable but is normally totally and completely incapable of thinking outside of the box or implementing creative approaches to problem solving.

This is just a topic imo engaging him in a back and forth will just cause frustration for the person doing it
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:05 am to
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Most overused word this weekend.



Except Irrelevant!
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:07 am to
Amen. Correct
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:07 am to
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he can be extremely knowledgeable but is normally totally and completely incapable of thinking outside of the box or implementing creative approaches to problem solving.

That is 100% not true.

This operation is the most linearly stationed response to Iran imaginable and it's being judged on those lines because of it.

Where is the creativity in what we're doing in Iran policy-wise?

I'm even being clear to have people identify the specific goals so they can't "art of the deal" out of this to retcon and reimagine the scenario down the line to claim victory even if it's a failure.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:07 am to
Thanks eeyore. We will take it under advisement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:09 am to
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a neocon would be planning on making this a long war and then take over


We have engaged in 2 large military operations in 7-8 months and are trying to specifically influence regime change that we (well, Israel) choose.

quote:

this will be over in a few weeks and Iran will be an ally

The (puppet) government of Iran may be an ally.

You think that the Iranian population, or at least a chunk large enough to cause issues, will accept rule by the US and Israel long-term?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:09 am to
There is virtually no chance we will put boots on the ground.

It’s neither wanted nor possible right now.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87899 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:11 am to
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This operation is the most linearly stationed response to Iran imaginable and it's being judged on those lines because of it.

By who, you?

quote:

Where is the creativity in what we're doing in Iran policy-wise?

FFS Patton stick to blowing Boasberg types.

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I'm even being clear to have people identify the specific goals so they can't "art of the deal" out of this to retcon and reimagine the scenario down the line to claim victory even if it's a failure.

The it is, SlowIndependentPro
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110335 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:11 am to
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You think that the Iranian population, or at least a chunk large enough to cause issues, will accept rule by the US and Israel long-term?


This seems as likely as not to me. I guess you’ve called your shot, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471569 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:12 am to
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I guess you’ve called your shot, though.

Unlike the people celebrating a nebulous victory over an undefined goal? Yes.

And if/when I'm proven right down the line, they'll say I hate America and hope we lose/die for pointing it out. I was here in 2004 and that will repeat itself again, too
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 9:13 am
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87899 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:13 am to
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Unlike the people celebrating a nebulous victory over an undefined goal? Yes.



FFS 140K plus of this shite.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
87899 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:13 am to
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I'm proven right
fricking amazing just how giant an a-hole you portray.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28840 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:14 am to
You are aware that you can celebrate good outcomes and objectively morally good things, like the death of that bitch the Ayatollah, while still being aware that the major over arching goal is yet to be achieved, yes?
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
813 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:14 am to
Absolutely none of this has to do with regime change for the sake of “democracy”.

This is all aimed toward containing China and Russia. Anything else is gravy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137082 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:14 am to
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Not a relevant question. That's short-sided analysis for the emotional chest-beating type.
Specifying what you meant by "capabilities" is "not a relevant question"?

The goal of our previous interdiction was specifically to destroy functioning centrifuges and uranium enrichment facilities. Unless you're aware of information which I'm not, Iranian production facilities were obliterated.

Obviously, the existing products of that process were previously moved and stored elsewhere though. Given continued malignant intent, those products could be weaponized dozens of ways, +/- an actual nuclear device ... aka capabilities.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
784 posts
Posted on 3/1/26 at 9:14 am to
I'm even being clear to have people identify the specific goals

1). Provide support and an opportunity after 47 repressive years for the Iranian people to change the shithole regime that has been repressing and killing them
2). Kill the baddest of the bad guys who have been in charge of said regime and have proved they will kill their own people to maintain power
3) continue to set back by decades said regimes desire to obtain and use WMDs against their own people and the world
4) use said regimes desire as the useful example to other similar bad guys around the world that we can deliver a precise strike right up your arse without harming the people of your country who are not at fault, thereby giving pause to other would be shite hole leaders
5) draw out people like you and reveal you for the shite bag you are who’s only desire is to “resist” anything an orange man does

How badly would you want to slide into the Iranian big chair this morning? After watching us bring the compound down around the last guy stori3s underground.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 9:19 am
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