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re: This myth that Republicans in Congress would work with Obama
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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This Congress is statistically the least productive in the history of the country. Look it up.
this is a good thing
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
they just worked with him to ink the piece of shite farm bill
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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I would be the first to say that Obama could have and should have done things differently (if he did have any any interest in actually accomplishing even half of his stated 2008 agenda)
This is my problem and I've stated it numerous times on this board. Deficit, deficit, deficit, $17 trillion and counting. It doesn't matter what they pass, what they do, if they are not working to bring down the deficit by reducing spending, they are all wasting their time. History will show we imploded because of this albatross. I guarantee we will collapse under this debt. Everything should be on the back burner until they resolve the spending problem. And I believe both sides are guilty!
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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They still voted for things their constituents wanted.
again
the "Tea Party" was elected to shrink government. their consituents want smaller government
show me where they were against a bill Obama supported to shrink government
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I thought "dissent was the highest form of patriotism"??
Or is that for when only a republican is in the WH?
Or is that for when only a republican is in the WH?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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what is this, Kindergarden?
My point was he has brought this upon himself, he has constantly lied and forcibly passed what he's wanted to pass. He continues to use executive powers to pass bills which is completely unconstitutional. He's never accepted responsibility for his failures and is never held accountable by his followers.Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:16 pm to geauxtigers87
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this is a good thing
well again if thats your goal and your ideology that's fine, just don't lie about it or say "the other side did it too" when the numbers just don't bear that out.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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they certainly were when it came to divisive elements of Bush's platform.
What a convenient excuse. Divisive is subjective. I'd say the Republicans are doing the exact same thing.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
let me be clear, i'm not a tea party guy. both parties have dropped the ball. the less they can pass and make shite worse at this point the better
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The extent of Republican unity to date is attributable to some degree to Democratic missteps, as well as to the rise of the Tea Party movement, which has exerted tremendous pressure on Republicans not to do anything that might give comfort to the president and his party.
wrong wrong wrong
the Tea Party was elected to decrease the size of the federal government and reign in federal spending
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Just look at the gun law they tried to get passed after Newtown. The really mild one that had huge support among Americans. They killed that too because they didn't want Obama to get anything he could spin as a victory. That's the definition of putting party over country.
I don't expect Republicans to vote for the truly liberal aspects of his agenda, that would be silly.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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if he used a different "tone" or whatever Paul Ryan or some other conservatives claim is complete bullshite.
meh. There are plenty of dem-lites there that would extend a hand.
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GOP congressmen in both the House and Senate have been stonewalling Obama since the day he was elected in 2008
Since they couldn't stop a single agenda item for 2 years... quote:
ratcheted up the partisan rancor at every turn
like "ride in the back of the bus" or "I won, you lost." etc?
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Mitch McConnell instructed Republican Senators to "make a public show" of wanting work with Obama, but to block him at every turn.
Mitch McConnell's a tool. We agree on this.
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don't go on tv and lie to everyone about your motives.
interdasting.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What a convenient excuse. Divisive is subjective. I'd say the Republicans are doing the exact same thing.
exactly. you said it before i could
what is divisive now is spending
Obama wants to spend more. the GOP, especially the libertarian and Tea Party factions, were elected to combat spending
it's nothing personal against Obama...it's against spending
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the rise of the Tea Party movement, which has exerted tremendous pressure on Republicans not to do anything that might give comfort to the president and his party.
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wrong wrong wrong
the Tea Party was elected to decrease the size of the federal government and reign in federal spending
exactly. and standing against anything this president tries to do by default is standing against increasing the size of the federal government.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the Tea Party was elected to decrease the size of the federal government and reign in federal spending
this should be the agenda for everyone...if we don't do these two things, we will fail miserably, we are already on that path
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Just look at the gun law they tried to get passed after Newtown. The really mild one that had huge support among Americans.
that doesn't mean it had the support of their constituents
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I don't expect Republicans to vote for the truly liberal aspects of his agenda,
like gun control?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what is divisive now is spending
Yep, and it should be. The two ideologies doing what they do best. I don't see why this is so noteworthy for the OP.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Divisive is subjective.
Actually it's not. Poll numbers tell you what the American people think and want.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:21 pm to Rohan2Reed
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and standing against anything this president tries to do by default is standing against increasing the size of the federal government.
when Obama pushes to unilaterally decrease the size/power of the federal government without concession and the GOP fights him, i'll take the liberals side on this argument.
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