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re: This is why Russian must be defeated in Ukraine
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:57 am to AnotherWin4LSU
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:57 am to AnotherWin4LSU
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Russia sent 200,000+ troops into another sovereign nation and killed 100,000+ of its soldiers for a money grab?
Nah, its because Ukraine is nothing but a US satellite.
Just another run of the mill proxy war.
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Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:57 am to TigerB8
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How did he cause a civil war? A
Ukraine was on the way to EU integration and this policy was very popular.
He slow-rolled the integration efforts and then at the 11th hour pulled out and agreed to a terrible trade deal with Russia, which would have subjugated Ukraine to Russia, effectively. That is what sparked the protests the grew into the maidan revolution.
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Are you seriously saying that the CIA/US had nothing to do with the color revolution in 2014 that put the US back in control over Ukraine?
The CIA took advantage of an opportunity that Russian hubris created and helped get a more pro-Western leader in place of Putin's puppet. The CIA certainly did not start the conflict. That was organic reaction to Putin over-stepping.
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Who gives a frick,
Anyone who is worried about escalation in direct response to the 2014 civil war, which you previously claimed to be.
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How on earth do you think Zelensky is NOT a US puppet?
Well he ousted the US puppet in a free and fair election. Why would we replace one puppet with a polar opposite puppet?
If Zelensky is a puppet of any nation, it's Israel.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:58 am to AnotherWin4LSU
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The USA is part of NATO. So it is our problem.
Which nation fighting is part of NATO?
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Well he ousted the US puppet
Z is a US puppet, he just replaced another one.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Which nation fighting is part of NATO?
It's right there in OP
Putin used similar language to describe Ukraine prior to the invasion of Ukraine. He is now talking about how Lithuania should be part of Russia and is not a real country. He is also saying that Poland should be punished for what it did in the last century. That’s 2 NATO nations that he is talking about.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 9:00 am
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Because Ukraine joining the EU sets Ukraine on a path to becoming a larger economic force than Russia over time.
wrong. Couldn't be more wrong.
Giving your sovereignty away to a group of globalists serves only to weaken you, and forces you to accept the wants of the globalists, which is your servitude.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 9:00 am
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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That’s 2 NATO nations that he is talking about.
Talking about =/= Fighting
Again for the slower among us, which nations fighting are part of NATO?
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:00 am to OccamsStubble
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Giving your sovereignty away to a group of globalists
As opposed to giving your sovereignty away to a person like Putin?
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serves only to weaken you
Who is weaker: the EU or Russia?
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and forces you to accept the wants of the globalists, which is your servitude.
Again, EU v. Putin. Who would you rather be dealing with?
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:04 am to Loserman
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Or better yet NATO should have stuck to the treaties after the collapse of the former Soviet Union and not admitted former Soviet territories to NATO
You're not wrong, but its hard to envision what would have happened the past 30 years if we didn't expand Nato. Yes, Russia would not feel as vulnerable and insecure as they do now, but there would also be nothing stopping Russia from seizing former soviet territories and rebuilding the soviet union. Then we're right back where we started. If you could solve this problem, then you could make peace in the Gaza strip and the Korean DMZ.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:05 am to AnotherWin4LSU
If for no other reason. I believe the official position of the US State Department is Russia must be defeated to preserve Pride Fest 2024 and future Who We Are festivals in "Keev".
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:06 am to Loserman
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Or better yet NATO should have stuck to the treaties after the collapse of the former Soviet Union and not admitted former Soviet territories to NATO
Please link those treaties. I’m interested in seeing them.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:06 am to Loserman
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Or better yet NATO should have stuck to the treaties after the collapse of the former Soviet Union
Which treaties, specifically?
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:06 am to Ping Pong
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You're not wrong, but its hard to envision what would have happened the past 30 years if we didn't expand Nato.
NATO should have been phased out when the Soviet Union fell.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:06 am to AnotherWin4LSU
quote:It has neither the means, nor the motive (unless we provide one).
would move against Lithuania and Poland if they had the military capability to do so.
The rest of your post is ridiculous. Poland is a full member of NATO. A Russian attack on Poland would start WWIII.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:06 am to azcatiger
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WTF is wrong with you? It was proven yesterday that we are fighting there to keep Biden from being exposed. That’s it! Nothing more.
Well we're also there so the Military Industrial Complex can collect billions of our tax dollars
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:07 am to AnotherWin4LSU
He won’t do shite about touching NATO countries. Don’t let the clowns try and relate to Hitler in 1939.
Poland was not part of the Allies. They just had enough of his shite and continuing to lie.
Poland was not part of the Allies. They just had enough of his shite and continuing to lie.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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in a free and fair election
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:10 am to AnotherWin4LSU
I wish Ukraine nothing but the best in their war with Russia.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:15 am to Tiger985
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I wish Ukraine nothing but the best in their war with Russia.
Yep, hope they win.
With appropriate help from geographically interested areas, not us.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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NATO should have been phased out when the Soviet Union fell.
Better yet, we should have nuked the hell out of the Soviet Union at the end of WW2. Instead, we let them develop their own nuclear weapons and spread their communist ideology around the world.
We could have prevented the communist revolutions of China and Cuba. The Korean and Vietnam wars would have never happened.
A beaten Soviet Union would have never invaded Afghanistan in the 80s, so Al Qaeda and the Taliban would have never grew and become well armed. Therefore, 9/11 wouldn't have happened.
A peaceful 2nd half of the 20th century would have had little need for the military industrial complex. Thus, there's a good chance the Iraq war never happens without them and their boy, Dick Cheney.
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