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re: This is what’s being protested, the over militarization of our police force

Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:45 pm to
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If Floyd would have gotten in the SUV instead of going to the ground to resist arrest none of this would be happening.

We can't have a civilization that allows people to act however they choose to because of the color of their skin.

I'm appalled at their behavior all the time. Unfortunately it reflects poorly on all of us blacks, and today for the first time in my life I'm deeply ashamed to be black, because I appear to be one of them.

I'll back the blue, and I'll stand with any group that opposes these heathen rioters


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So you think Floyd was compliant and handcuffed and let them walk him across the street.. but decided to start resisting once he fell down a 2nd time?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:49 pm to
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It wasn't a force, it was four guys who deserve to be punished for that. That's it. No need to destroy other's property.


And a botched no knock raid that ended the life of Breonna Taylor.

And a former LEO and son chasing down a black guy trying to arrest him.. then killed him.

And the woman calling the police on a man in central park telling them an African American man was threatening her and her dog.

And the police aggressively enforcing Covid19 lockdowns.

Surely you can sympathize with at least one of those.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:51 pm to
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It 100% is.
Okay
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49957 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:52 pm to
And I’m still incredulous about the whole Sandra Bland killing, as well.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:54 pm to
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And I’m still incredulous about the whole Sandra Bland killing, as well.


Hell throw tamir rice in there as well
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:55 pm to
I don’t understand why some people don’t want to acknowledge this trend
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:55 pm to
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And a botched no knock raid that ended the life of Breonna Taylor.

And a former LEO and son chasing down a black guy trying to arrest him.. then killed him.

And the woman calling the police on a man in central park telling them an African American man was threatening her and her dog.

And the police aggressively enforcing Covid19 lockdowns.

Surely you can sympathize with at least one of those.
I can sympathize with all of them as they are terrible. But, there are hundreds of millions of police and public interactions every year and a very small number turn out bad. There are so many police public interactions that the bad outcomes will never disappear, never.

None of the above is worthy of destroying and looting cities, surely you can agree. Well, can you?
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:56 pm to
What trend?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:56 pm to
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I have a different opinion as to the militarization of our police forces. They need to be two steps ahead of the criminal elements they face Day in and out. I would have to say they are equal in armaments and not always but much better trained.



Use a SWAT team when absolutely necessary but otherwise no they don’t. When you arm people they tend to use it. Give them more weapons and guess what, they get used. By arming them so much we'vei stilled the mentality in both the cops as well as the populace that they are at war with us. That’s why we are having cities burn right now.

Teach them to deescalate situations, have them more involved in positive things in their communities, actually serve and protect. If our police force actually helped our communities more you’d see a bond grow and that distrust tend to fade. But it takes a change in the mindset though and that’s gonna be tough
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10887 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:56 pm to
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So you think Floyd was compliant and handcuffed and let them walk him across the street.. but decided to start resisting once he fell down a 2nd time?


No he resisted the cuffs, resisted being pulled away from his vehicle, and then went to the ground refusing to get in the SUV.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:57 pm to
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It absolutely has to do with the militarization of our police force.


I don’t see how anyone can separate the two issues. George Floyd’s death seems directly attributable to the War on Drugs® and this Police State mentality that views all citizens as potential enemy combatants.

With that said, I hold the individual officers responsible for the man’s death and believe that they should be held accountable and face legal consequences for the death. On the same token, the people burning businesses to the ground and threatening violence against innocents who had nothing whatsoever to do with this man’s death should likewise be held accountable and face legal consequences for their wanton destruction.

Need I even add that? I don’t know why we can’t raise these issues without being accused of supporting violent street demonstrations and mob rule?



Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:58 pm to
Remember back in grade school when those one or two kids were so badly behaved that the teacher had to lecture and enforce strict rules for the entire class...even the ones that behaved..
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 4:58 pm to
Sandra Bland? She committed suicide. Are you blaming the police for her suicide or are you intimating something more sinister?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
49957 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Sandra Bland? She committed suicide. Are you blaming the police for her suicide or are you intimating something more sinister?


So you think the way she was treated by the cop was appropriate? I don’t buy that she committed suicide.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:01 pm to
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If our police force actually helped our communities more you’d see a bond grow and that distrust tend to fade.


Fairy tale.

Posted by GeauxTrain
Member since Sep 2019
1691 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:02 pm to
Only an idiot would protest the militarization of the police force in such a way that justifies even more militarization of police forces.

Behold, the modern Progressive Left.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29139 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:04 pm to
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I don’t see how anyone can separate the two issues. George Floyd’s death seems directly attributable to the War on Drugs® and this Police State mentality that views all citizens as potential enemy combatants.

With that said, I hold the individual officers responsible for the man’s death and believe that they should be held accountable and face legal consequences for the death. On the same token, the people burning businesses to the ground and threatening violence against innocents who had nothing whatsoever to do with this man’s death should likewise be held accountable and face legal consequences for their wanton destruction.



Agree on both counts. The WoD has helped facilitate the growth the size of law enforcement and they’d reach into our lives. It has caused our police force to declare war against the citizens, and when somebody is at war with you then it’s not unreasonable to fight back.

That said the looters are the scum of the earth. I get the general pissed off ness of society but frick them for what they’re doing.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:04 pm to
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No he resisted the cuffs, resisted being pulled away from his vehicle, and then went to the ground refusing to get in the SUV.


I linked you a video of the whole damn thing
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47641 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:06 pm to
You guys have to be trolls. I find it impossible to believe anyone with even the slightest education can be this stupid.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:07 pm to
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Teach them to deescalate situations, have them more involved in positive things in their communities, actually serve and protect. If our police force actually helped our communities more you’d see a bond grow and that distrust tend to fade.
They do. All you see is the negative and your mind only recalls that. You lose perspective easily. You have no idea what they experience on a daily basis. You have no idea of the number of daily interactions they engage in across the country every year and with whom. You see a relatively few poor outcomes and you get emotional and want to bitch.
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If our police force actually helped our communities more you’d see a bond grow and that distrust tend to fade.
This is a naive notion. As long as they have to arrest people for real crimes, nobody will trust them.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 5:11 pm
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