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re: This is what happened during the latest Minneapolis shooting.

Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16602 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:13 pm to
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That would be textbook negligent discharge

Negligent only if the experienced agent pulled the trigger. There are lawsuits suggesting Pretti’s weapon is known to fire without someone pulling the trigger.

The agent’s hand was on the base of the grip. That’s how an agent may carry a weapon to be secured for evidence - by keeping the finger away from the trigger.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 11:04 pm
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65780 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:13 pm to
He grabs at something on his belt after the gun was removed, at first I thought it was a phone, but I now think it was the extra clip. That’s when he was shot, that hand movement after someone yelled “ gun”…just shouldn’t have been there, the signal chat operative that dispatched him should face charges
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
2004 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:28 pm to
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Good God not even close to a "textbook" case


It absolutely is. Remember, police are not only concerned with protecting themselves, they’re also concerned with protecting the public at large, including the demonstrators who are in fact peacefully assembled. When Pretti entered the melee armed with a gun, he established himself as a threat to public safety, and the officers neutralized the threat. Period.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:39 pm to
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When was he in an obstructing position?


When the nurse decided to white knight for the person that got pushed into the snow. He attempted to separate the agent from the pushed person. That’s illegal.
It's illegal to try and help someone up off the ground after they've been attacked? What country do you live in?
quote:

What commands were given? He was mugged and thrown to the street by a group of thugs.


We could probably hear them if the area wasn’t filled with a bunch of agitators blowing Karen whistles to alert any potential dangerous criminals in the area.

You're going to tell me that ICE can't do their jobs because people are blowing whistles?

Weak.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16602 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:00 pm to
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It's illegal to try and help someone up off the ground after they've been attacked? What country do you live in?

You must have overlooked him attempting to wedge himself between the agent and the person the agent was dealing with. I’m sure it was an honest mistake on your part.
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You're going to tell me that ICE can't do their jobs because people are blowing whistles? Weak.

Try again. The reference was quite obviously about the audio we have access to.

It is not the job of ICE agents to provide us with high quality audio on the phones of Karens blowing Karen whistles.

If you have an issue with that, take it up with the Karens who chose to deprive you with high quality audio and subpar video.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:05 pm to
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You're going to tell me that ICE can't do their jobs because people are blowing whistles? Weak.


Try again. The reference was quite obviously about the audio we have access to.

It is not the job of ICE agents to provide us with high quality audio on the phones of Karens blowing Karen whistles.
So you didn't hear any commands, you just assume there were some. Got it.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:06 pm to
TX Tireshooter you go Corky!
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70425 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:14 pm to
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What extent do you believe should be allowable? How about none.


I don’t have an issue with citizens filming police. If you block police cars in or try to get between them and a suspect during an investigation, that would not be okay. You don’t have to answer every question an officer asks you, and they cannot search you or arrest you without probable cause.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:19 pm to
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What extent do you believe should be allowable? How about none.



I don’t have an issue with citizens filming police. If you block police cars in or try to get between them and a suspect during an investigation, that would not be okay. You don’t have to answer every question an officer asks you, and they cannot search you or arrest you without probable cause.


What about breaking into a house without a search warrant?
What about randomly stopping citizens because of the color of their skin or because they have an accent?
What about going door to door?
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:21 pm
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1977 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:20 pm to
How does Mr shoot the tires not have an ounce of self awareness or self respect after making a fool of himself the last time around on this

His greatest contribution to the lst death was that ICE could,have shot the tires instead on the,lady. Now he’s an expert on conceal carry!!
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:22 pm
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3866 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:22 pm to
What it all boils down to is the person shot did not stand down and was there interfering. That's what it boils down to.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16602 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:23 pm to
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So you didn't hear any commands, you just assume there were some. Got it.

You’re a mental retard. I have not yet seen evidence of you being physically retarded, but I don’t assume that you’re not.

I hope that helps you wrap your retarded head around it.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

So you didn't hear any commands, you just assume there were some. Got it.


You’re a mental retard. I have not yet seen evidence of you being physically retarded, but I don’t assume that you’re not.

I hope that helps you wrap your retarded head around it.
You just like making unfounded accusations.

It all makes sense now.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97862 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:26 pm to
Its obvious you are a tard
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16602 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:31 pm to
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You just like making unfounded accusations.

Dude, you are so fricking retarded. There’s no way that’s unfounded.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74767 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:33 pm to
take the L, you've earned another one.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41706 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:52 pm to
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No amount of blaming the dead guy justifies that outcome, it was a failure on the part of law enforcement.


Besides the whole "resisting and then reaching for where he thought his fire arm was" part.........
Posted by RED DAWN REDUX
Member since Aug 2021
263 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:00 pm to
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pistol had an accidental discharge


No such thing…NEGLIGENT discharge Violation of CBP policy to remove holstered weapon until hands secured.

quote:

But the gun discharging is what really caused the shooting.


No, the morons with no PID of a threat pulled triggers and caused the shooting. They shouldn’t carry badges and need to be prosecuted for numerous criminal violations and fired for violating CBP policies. Freaking amateurs.

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26693 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:02 pm to


This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 11:05 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26693 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:04 pm to
I do have some questions. Correct me if I am wrong but Mr. Dead Guy was supposed to be carrying his permit to be legal in Minnesota and from what I have seen he was not. WHY NOT?

Why was he carrying all that ammo? Anyone?

You do what he did, walk up on some LEO's with a weapon and not let them know, anywhere in the country, and youre asking for trouble.Much less have them find it in a scrum while youre resisting arrest.

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