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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?

Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Your IQ has to be below room temperature if you actually believe this.


He also claims to be conservative.

I have never seen a single conservative thought from him on this board.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:03 pm to
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Substitute the word Jew for white in Critical Race theory and it sounds a lot like Nazi racial rhetoric


Not in actuality.


In actuality you'd need to sub in "Jew" for the various versions of "immigrants", "minorities", "black/brown people", etc in order for the current Republican rhetoric to really show how it's linked to antecedents in the Nazi party.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52157 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Both were collectivists. Both want to control the economy.

Hitler was a collectivist in that he thought the German people was more important than German individuals. It’s hard to accuse the left of that, with their emphasis on each individual being a little snowflake.

The left has historically been that way - the commies were notoriously trying to break eggs (people) to make omelettes.

But ANY authoritarian - whether of the right or the left - is going to trample individual rights.

I wish some prominent left wing and right wing partisans from the 1930’s could come back to hear you guys calling Hitler (and Franco, I presume) left wing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:04 pm to
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Again, Left = bigger government with autocracy at its extreme


I think we end up as a technocracy. The authoritarian landscape of "experts" (Like Bill Gates and Fauci) who decide policy.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Hitler was a collectivist in that he thought the German people was more important than German individuals.


Hitler was 100% a collectivist. Nazi ideology is nothing but the promotion of the group. They didn't like communism or capitalism. They wanted a strong central govt that made decisions for the people.

Its at the opposite end of the personal freedom scale.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:06 pm to
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I wish some prominent left wing and right wing partisans from the 1930’s could come back to hear you guys calling Hitler (and Franco, I presume) left wing.

Pretty eell established at the time that Hitler was a socialist and that was a good thing. He was only not left wing compared to the communists.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:08 pm to
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In actuality you'd need to sub in "Jew" for the various versions of "immigrants", "minorities", "black/brown people", etc in order for the current Republican rhetoric


You poor little thing.

I'll bet your intersectionality score is off the charts!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Pretty eell established at the time that Hitler was a socialist and that was a good thing. He was only not left wing compared to the communists.

Yep, he didn't like capitalism or communism, so he settled for his version of socialism.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:10 pm to
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Pretty eell established at the time that Hitler was a socialist


Pretty well-established that's incorrect as you mean to imply.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:11 pm to
Well if Vox says it...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:12 pm to
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Pretty well-established that's incorrect as you mean to imply.


Vox

How retarded are you?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135588 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:13 pm to
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linked to antecedents in the Nazi party
Ahhhh, so rather than a political systems scale being defined by governance modalities, the left-right spectrum is defined as non-racist vs racist.

Color me an ultra-leftist by that measure.

Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Ahhhh, so rather than a political systems scale being defined by governance modalities, the left-right spectrum is defined as non-racist vs racist.

The goal posts, they are a-shifting...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:17 pm to
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the left-right spectrum is defined as non-racist vs racist.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135588 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Pretty well-established that's incorrect as you mean to imply.

Riiight. You're doing great here. Political scales are not determined by political beliefs or governance by rather racism.

Now Hitler, a founder of the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party, was not socialist.

What next? President PotatoBrain is a closet genius?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:18 pm to
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FDR was conservative was he not?


FDR was Bernie Sanders lite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:27 pm to
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It’s the part that requires critical thinking


Which is inappropriate for children who are being exposed to these subjects that the adherents don't understand.

CRT is just another way of looking at things, in no way is it validated.

"Microaggressions" don't exist.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37623 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:28 pm to
I don’t know, that chart seems pretty outdated thinking of the throngs of leftists demanding blood or servitude for anyone expressing any dissenting thought.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296524 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:31 pm to
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FDR was Bernie Sanders lite


He was precisely what Sanders wants to be.

A regime with the economy of the USA at your fingertips. All central planning all the time. That is the ultimate in power.

Froze wages, froze the price of many things, set prices, set production quotes. Our system of insurance through work stems from wage freezes during that time.

Never mind those pesky concentration camps he set up.



This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:33 pm to
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He was precisely what Sanders wants to be.

A regime with the economy of the USA at your fingertips. All central planning all the time.



And what were the Nazis if not "all central planning all the time?"

Sorry, that was for BamaCommie.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 1:37 pm
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