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re: This ceasefire is exactly what the Pope called for

Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:26 am to
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2497 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:26 am to
Trump wanted no part of this war but worked hard to bring peace without violence. But make no mistake that a nuclear weapon in the hands of mad men is the ultimate weapon of violence known to man. Trump has neutralize the threat of this violence towards millions of people that has for years cost the American tax payers millions of dollars in bribes that could have been spent toward more peaceful causes. But there has been very little criticism of the thousands murdered by this terrorist regime who keep women as second rate citizens in the name of religion and who pray that Trump will help them to become free. They too are worthy of prayer and their basic civil rights that democrats have in the past championed but for the hate of Trump and politics. Trump is the ultimate peace maker and has worked hard to realize this peace around the world. On one hand the democrats want us to end this war but when that happens they say nothing was accomplished spouting rhetoric projected by Iranian media. If he stops now Taco. If he goes further Hitler. It really is Trump Derangement mindset.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22980 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 7:26 am to
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Preaching Jesus' message as something people should aspire to is one thing. Assuming people across the world share good will and can all come to peaceful understandings is simply delusional of human nature and the varying value systems that exist across civilizations.


Did Jesus say "this is my commandment, but you only have to follow it if everyone does it"
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17186 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:01 am to
Let's revisit the quote in question:

quote:

Violence can never lead to the justice, stability, and peace that the people are waiting for.


This quote is simply nonsense and we would not have Western Civilization nor would Christianity exist in its current form if we abided by it. It is fundamentally ignorant of human reality.

Pacifism in the current state of human affairs, and in all previous states of human affairs as well, can only necessarily result in subjugation of the civil and the dominance of the brutal. This manifest reality is why Christian men in historical times have used violence to protect their families and nations from enemies who would otherwise brutalize them in order to dominate them and subject them to their will. The pacifists are utopian zealots who would see us be subjugated if it meant adherence to their idealistic dogma.

So as I said, no one should take the Pope's insane statement seriously outside of theoretical and purely ideological musing. He can afford to do that because he is not responsible for making any actual difficult decisions preserving the lives and society of hundreds of millions of civilized peoples from those who would seek to exploit and brutalize them.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28042 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Violence can never lead to the justice, stability, and peace that the people are waiting for."


So I can just waltz into the Vatican and no force will be used to stop me? Cool.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46758 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:15 am to
Seems to me that the Pope is at odds with both the Bible and church history. Not only do the Scriptures teach that the civil magistrate may wield the sword for justice, but the Catholic church has provided support for wars, crusades, and heretic-killing in the name of justice, peace, and civil order.
Posted by FriedPork
Member since Nov 2025
32 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:21 am to
"this is my commandment, but you only have to follow it if everyone does it"

He did tell his people if they were rejected not to worry about those that rejected them.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
7983 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:43 am to
Yes, he can get back to protecting pedos
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 8:44 am to
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Same degenerate pervert who lets child molestors off the hook?


The irony
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55098 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 9:05 am to
Trump is taking orders from Pope and from Bibi.

Trump is a puppet.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55098 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 9:06 am to
Good for Trump
This post was edited on 4/8/26 at 9:07 am
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13260 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 9:15 am to
Why don't you go to the Vatican and you and that gay TDS Pope can hold each other and cry about OMB together.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55206 posts
Posted on 4/8/26 at 11:54 am to
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When you say hostilities, are you referring to the funding of terrorism and enrichment of uranium?

No, I don’t think the pope minded that too much.
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