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re: They’re are some interesting “students” at this High School in Broward FLA

Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14172 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 5:53 pm to
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You could have just said “I don’t know what The_Donald is” and saved a couple of keystrokes

Is there some reason you posted that drivel instead of just posting a link, like I asked???
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:04 pm to
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Students who engaged in violence, drug sales, robberies, burglaries, theft and other various crimes were intentionally kept out of the criminal justice system. County administrators and School Superintendents told local and county law enforcement officers to stop arresting students


At some point, Thomas Wictor posted a thread on twitter about how Eric Holder and company were essentially trying to make it so that violent offenders weren’t imprisoned.

It would be interesting to read that again in light of this information.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
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At some point, Thomas Wictor posted a thread on twitter about how Eric Holder and company were essentially trying to make it so that violent offenders weren’t imprisoned.

It would be interesting to read that again in light of this information.




Just a year or two ago a certain mayor on the east coast said this in response to rioters:

" ... we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well ..."
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18186 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:14 pm to
Good information - however, some of these "kids" have been on TV in several "crisis" situations
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7946 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Is there some reason you posted that drivel instead of just posting a link, like I asked???


You’re lazy AND stupid, we get it
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:25 pm to
This school was huge, with almost 3500 students.

Unlike the other shootings, there are probably a number of students who didn't really know any of the victims and were nowhere near the shooting. Therefore, they aren't as likely to be traumatized, and from that group, some of them are probably taking advantage of the attention.

In other words, it's easier to be an opportunist when they're not as traumatized yet given the benefit of the doubt as they were. May be I'm just being cynical, but I do feel like there are always people who relish attention, and in this case, they can get the attention without the exteme trauma with little skepticism of that.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 6:30 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:29 pm to
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This school was huge, with almost 3500 students.



Listen bumpkin...3500 is big but not huge.

And if this kid was expelled for this kind of shite... everybody knew who he was.

Your little soyboi antigun heroes said they knew him. Are they liars?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:30 pm to
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You don't seem like the kind of person that typically buys into this kind of stuff, so if your ears perk up, then maybe there's something here.
I'm really not buying into anything, other than these kids getting used and maneuvered by seedy, extremist adults.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30608 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:43 pm to
It would not shock me one bit if Liberals staged all of this to push and force their political agenda. The weak minded people who join in and follow the masses and believe everything their liberal media tells them.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 6:44 pm
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5886 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:45 pm to
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So the kids who are getting the most face time have ties to national law enforcement and journalism?


No, these kids have ties to the FBI and CNN.
Posted by Widespread Panic
Member since Oct 2017
106 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:47 pm to
There is definitely some sinister shite going on with this shooting. In Cruz’s YouTube video he has on none other than MAGA hat. I’m not much of a conspiracy theorist but I would not be surprised if there some foul shite going on behind the the scenes of this tragedy.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Listen bumpkin...3500 is big but not huge.
This is from 2009-2010, but the average high school school had 854 students and in about 30 states the largest high school was fewest than 3,000. Florida’s high schools had the largest average enrollment with 1590 students.

So 3,500 seems seems huge to me, but my point was that it’s a school where many students would not know one another, especially across grades.
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And if this kid was expelled for this kind of shite... everybody knew who he was.
I highly doubt all of the students in the lower grades knew who a 19 year old loser was, but I said they may not know then victims.
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Your little soyboi antigun heroes said they knew him. Are they liars?
I don’t know. Again I was talking about the victims, so I don’t know why you’re talking about the shooter, who I never mentioned.

Average student membership size of regular public elementary and secondary schools with membership, by instructional level, membership size of largest and smallest school, and state or jurisdiction: School year 2009–10
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 7:00 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 6:58 pm to
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but the average high school school had 854 students and in about 30 states the largest high school was fewest than 3,000. Florida’s high schools had the largest average enrollment with 1590 students.


So you're knowingly using an average based on a skewed distribution and making a claim?

Lolzy. Just go back to MSB and wax poetically about LeTill
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:08 pm to
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So you're knowingly using an average based on a skewed distribution and making a claim?
The only data provided was the average by each level, and the smallest and largest across all levels. That’s why I pointed out that in 30 states, the largest school didn’t even have 3,000 students. So it's clear that overwhelming majority of high schools are smaller than this one.

I'm not even sure what you're arguing. If huge was too strong of a descriptor then fine. My point was that a lot of students wouldn't know one another.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:10 pm to
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You should apply that same standard to investigations of speculated Russian collusion.


I do.

You are welcome to provide evidence otherwise though.

I’ll wait.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:10 pm to
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The only data provided was the average by each level,


Holy shite you fricking tart. If you take the 20 states that have high population

You know what...I don't care enjoy your wrongness
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:26 pm to
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Holy shite you fricking tart. If you take the 20 states that have high population

You know what...I don't care enjoy your wrongness
Well that list of 30 doesn't even include Ohio because, like many states, virtual schools are counted in the enrollment.

The largest high school has fewer than 2700 students and we have the 5th highest number of total schools, and Michigan has the 6th highest with not a single school of 2700 either.

So I'm willing to bet, that if you excluded the virtual schools, that at least 99.9% of the high schools in the US are smaller.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:31 pm to
Very, very curious
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:33 pm to
Damn if this is remotely true these folks faces need to be plastered all over the media and exposed
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:54 pm to
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It would not shock me one bit if Liberals staged all of this to push and force their political agenda.
The tragedy was awful. Horrible. It will leave many 14y/o kids traumatized for years.

It sounds though that those involving themselves in the political response witnessed little if anything. Their responses to the episode do seem staged, managed, and politicized.
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