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re: They will never learn. Woke does not sell. The Odyssey movie.

Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:28 am to
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:28 am to
This movie is going to fail so embarrassingly bad and I’m gonna love it.

Nolan is going to get humbled for the first time in his life
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4559 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:31 am to
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Nolan didn’t bend the knee to Hollywood. He bent the knee to his wife.


I think it has more to do with the fact that he based this adaptation on a translation that was written by a literal progressive feminist
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:31 am to
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It's Christopher Nolan It will sell

Opening weekends don't mean a movie will be a success, but they can mean a movie is a failure.

It will open decent no matter what because it's Nolan, but the successive weekends will tell the real story.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20605 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:36 am to
The problem is that to be considered for Best Picture at the Oscar, a film must now have an LGBT or minority in a leading role.

Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4044 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:38 am to
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Not everyone is so worried about someone being black in a fictional retelling of a story


So I guess its okay for Chris Pratt to play MLK Jr. in a fictional re-telling of the philanderer who rose to prominence via the CIA ...

Or would that be out of bounds?

Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10550 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:39 am to
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I look forward to bumping this thread

Not everyone is so worried about someone being black in a fictional retelling of a story


It depends Power... on whether it is any good.

We just think it's stupid to portray Hellen (who had Alabaster-like skin) as a black person... for no reason.

Or have Ellen (or Elliot) Page as a male in this movie... I suspect, for me, it will possibly remind me of how great she was in Inception, the height of Nolan filmography.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11058 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:39 am to
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How could you tell? Emily Wilson - author of the translation Nolan based his work on...


That looks like Dr. Melfi’s methed up twin brother.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7877 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:40 am to
The budget was like $250m and the "break even" figure (after marketing, etc.) is somwhere in the $650m range.

Are you saying this movie will lose money (less than the 650m figure)? I'll take that bet all day.

Oppenheimer did about $1b for reference, I'm guessing Odyssey will do similar numbers (maybe slightly less).
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
4044 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:41 am to
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It will open decent no matter what because it's Nolan, but the successive weekends will tell the real story


I think it will struggle to hit $125 million the opening weekend ...

The economy isn't great and streaming is devouring the box office/theater experience ...



Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13287 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:42 am to
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They want to rewrite history to their version.


Some are under the impression that if you rewrite history then you will change your future. Good luck with that.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6385 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:43 am to
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Define, won't sell. Like in terms of revenue? Awards? Be specific.

These kinds of threads are subjective jibberish if you're unwilling to stand by some kind of actual metric.

I'd caution you to bet against Nolan right now, but you do you.


What makes it even better is the movie doesn't come out until July
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7877 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:45 am to
Most of them are going to end up seeing at some point too.

I dunno about how many awards it'll win (so subjective and depends a lot on what it's up against) but it will ABSOLUTLEY sell in the box office.

Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5715 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:46 am to
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You mean there wasn't a cadre of sassy black women doing nuclear physics in some back office?


What? you didn't like Madea Goes to the Moon??
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
8093 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:52 am to
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Not everyone is so worried about someone being black in a fictional retelling of a story

But a majority of woke dumb fricks are freaked out whenever a white person gets cast in anything.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42463 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:54 am to
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But a majority of woke dumb fricks are freaked out whenever a white person gets cast in anything.


Kind of like you melting your face off about anyone non white in a fictional movie
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68408 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:02 am to
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Oppenheimer did about $1b for reference, I'm guessing Odyssey will do similar numbers (maybe slightly less).

I think it's almost guaranteed that the domestic US market is lower than expected given all the bad press around castings and trailers. This type of film will probably kill it in Asia though.

We'll see if the movie is better than the trailers.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7877 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:09 am to
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I think it's almost guaranteed that the domestic US market is lower than expected given all the bad press around castings and trailers. This type of film will probably kill it in Asia though.

We'll see if the movie is better than the trailers.


Nolan (and Hollywood in general) are in the business of taking money from everyone, international audiences included. If it makes a lot money, it makes a lot of money, full stop.

Also, put an actual number on your prediction. US, intl, both, something objective. Be bold!
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3611 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:11 am to
The best part is a black man is playing Poseidon, God of the Sea. Doesn't Nolan know black people don't know how to swim?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:11 am to
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Nolan bent the knee after Oppenheimer got so much praise while being almost exclusively white.


I want to know his thoughts about going with a completely inaccurate and laughably incorrect explosion in the nuclear test scene when so much camera footage was available for it. You cannot recreate a nuclear explosion with conventional explosives and pyro.

Also missed his chance to portray Truman walking back in to the Potsdam Conference after hearing of the successful test and dragging his nuts across the table in front of the Soviets. Not just casually informing them.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 10:13 am
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
67 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:12 am to
Good one. Those unsung American heroes.
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