re: There are 2 types of suburban white women voters.

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But she's stunningly ignorant about feminism, so she thinks she's not.

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I believe that whoever does the best job, male or female, should be doing the job.

I don't think a person should get a job just because they are a female. On the other hand, if the female is most qualified, she should get the job. The same way I believe a person shouldn't get a job just because they are black. I believe in merit.


I believe men do things much better than females and I think that there are things a female does better than a male. There is a reason that there are no female Navy Seals and there is a reason more females are teachers.

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Perhaps financially but I would’ve been up shite creek without a paddle many many times without a male.

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That's funny! My oldest brother always says, if all the men were gone and us women were living in the houses, we would being from house to house because thetoilet backed up! He's not wrong.

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There were very few things that women were prohibited from choosing as a profession back then.

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bullshite!

Tell that to my extremely smart mom who graduated from HS in 1959. She wanted to be a physician. Her pharmacist and med tech father could have helped her do it. She was told she needed to be a nurse or a teacher. This was extremely common then. Additionally, women were not given spots in schools or hired for jobs they were qualified for because they were expected to quit when they got married or had a baby. Women's income wasn't counted towards a mortgage. By age 31, my mom was running the pharmacy business her father had when he died. Her brother was the pharmacist, but not the business person. The bank agreed to count half her income toward a mortgage because she was part owner in the business. It was unusual then. Women could not get credit either on their own. My profession, accounting, is now about 50/50 men and women. When I graduated from college, there would be 1 woman partner CFO in a room full of 50 accountants/CPAs.

The point is what do they choose. However, even that is not what you think. The number one major for women in college is some type of business degree, not nursing or education.

I don't disagree with what you say, however, a constant theme echoed by my Dad was someday your husband will take care of you. Be that as it may, my fate in life and I'm sure I speak for many, are those who fall into the category of divorced. Some may opt for some sort of government assistance but for me that was never an option. I struggled on my own, working two jobs more often than not. I find the type of woman you describe as utterly abhorrent and a disgrace to the idea of a strong woman.

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I believe that whoever does the best job, male or female, should be doing the job.

I don't think a person should get a job just because they are a female. On the other hand, if the female is most qualified, she should get the job. The same way I believe a person shouldn't get a job just because they are black. I believe in merit.


I believe men do things much better than females and I think that there are things a female does better than a male. There is a reason that there are no female Navy Seals and there is a reason more females are teachers.

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O.k., but that's not really what we're talking about.

I disagree, btw. I think there things that women do better than men and that men do better than women. There are actual statistics that show women are probably better doctors than men. Because they actually care more about their patients and those patient's outcomes.

The research shows that women care more about people and that men care more about things.

Which again, goes to the astounding (to no one outside of feminism) conclusion that men and women are different and naturally gravitate toward different occupations as a trend.

But what I'm really pushing back on with these women who don't think they are feminists has less to do with what women do as an occupation and the disintegration and ruin of the nuclear family.

Families need women. Families need men. The research is clear about what happens to children when one of those genders is absent from a family.

Which is why "women don't need men" is feminism. Feminism is historically staunchly anti-family and that starts with, "Women are strong and independent and don't need men."

Even of the women don't, the children do.

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There is a group that is like me who has never voted for a democrat in my whole life. We were raised by strong fathers who taught us to be independent and self-reliant. My mother never worked, but ran a house with 5 children, and did a damn good job. Me and my sisters were raised on the value that to get ahead you needed to work hard. Never did either of my parents tell us to go find a man to take care of us.
So, that is what we did. We all went to college, got degrees, and supported ourselves. We also married strong men who “could” take care of us but understood our independent streaks.

Then there is another group of women who are the liberal white women. Their goal was to find a man to take of them, they went to college to get their Mrs. degree. They married the man who could take care of them the best, they married so they didn’t have to work, and they know if anything should happen to their husband, they couldn’t care for themselves, so they support a government to take care of them. Since they don’t have any power in life, they derive their power from being the PTA and HOA leaders who have nothing better to do than complain that your garbage can was not behind a fence.

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In my experience this really isn't exactly how it breaks down, but I'm a dude.

In my experience, you have women in both categories who veer right or left. A TON of Mrs. degree/HOA types are rock solid R votes or will let their husbands influence their vote.

The biggest statistical breakdown is single vs. married. Single women support the D candidate with like 65%+ while most of the data I've seen shows R candidates having a slight edge among marrieds. This makes sense. Urban women are going to be single at a high clip and progressive at a high clip. The same applies to the manhating/bitter/divorcee contingent.

When you strip away these categories and focus on married women, to me it's really about location and how vulnerable they are to female peer pressure (social media, predominately). If you're in the middle of an urban area, your peers will lean left. The more plugged into luxury lifestyle/fashion/etc. - the more likely their lives are to be dominated by influencers and social media and being obsessed with not falling out of the good graces of the other women they seek to impress. While I certainly know of some groups meeting this definition where the pressure pushes women to the right, most probably do not. You see this particularly with abortion and the drive to have a female President, etc. - there is a "don't let other women down" thing that puts pressure on women who may not actually care about those things. It's vapid and stupid, but it has a real impact.

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I said that there are things each sex does better than the other. Since you seem to not be reading what I am writing, evidenced by your statement, how can you even comment on my post?

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Meh, I mis-read it. It happens. I'm at work. 'Cause, you know. I'm a man.

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You are really painful!

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Look, I know y'all respond based on emotions and not facts, but I really have to insist that if you're going to dispute what I'm saying, you base it in fact. What have I said about textbook feminist history that is untrue?