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re: The world's biggest deserts could be the best places for harvesting solar energy, right?

Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:42 pm to
Will there be a problem transporting this energy from point A to B? It’s not like shipping oil through a pipeline. If I remember correctly doesn’t electric/energy lose some of its power the farther you have to ship it? No one lives near the Sahara although with The upcoming Grand Solar minimum I think the Sahel is poised as an up and coming region
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11533 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:22 am to
Turning nature into a solar farm is retarded.

Putting solar panels on warehouses and other large buildings makes a lot more sense to me.

Cranking up Nuclear power makes the most sense. It is a shame we can't power the world 3X over with nuclear power right now.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 7:59 am to
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But do you start the project just HOPING for the emergence of technology that does not now exist?




Good luck raising capital with that as the tag line in your business plan.

That type of shite makes it easy on the front line, 1st-year associates to kick out pitches though. Saves time later.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:45 am to
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around 15% of that incoming energy gets converted to electricity. The rest is returned to the environment as heat.


This seems like a great way to beat global warming.
Posted by billjamin
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Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:10 am to
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Good luck raising capital with that as the tag line in your business plan.


I've gotten Tesla a billion-ish with a similar line for the PowerWall2.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:17 am to
Not to mention the challenges and physical limitations in transmitting that energy out of the desert to a town 500 miles away. You lose a lot of that energy in transmission, too.

Which is an advantage off fossil fuels. You pump it out of the ground, stick it in a truck or tanker, and you can ship it all over the planet with little loss in energy value.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:18 am to
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One would think that technological improvements would lead to a greater conversion rate (efficiency) over time ... certainly long before completion of enough solar farms to cover hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.


Technological advances might do that one day, but the solar cells won't look anything like what we have now. There are physical limitations on energy absorption. Doubling the efficiency will require different materials and designs.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119030 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:33 am to
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One would think that technological improvements would lead to a greater conversion rate (efficiency) over time ... certainly long before completion of enough solar farms to cover hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.


Another thing that cuts down on efficiency is the location of these solar panels. People don't live that close to deserts so a lot of power is lost transmitting energy from desert solar fields to populated areas.

Furthermore we use natural gas to produce electricity. The energy conversion rate from natural gas to electricity to your home is a bout 50%. That's why it's better to have your home outfitted with as much natural gas as possible. It's much more efficient to use natural gas directly rather than electracy produced from natural gas.

BTW, if you have a natural gas heater get your electrician to outfit your heater controls with a external outlet you can plug into a generator so you can run your natural gas heater if the power goes out during a cold snap. And FWIW there will be many more cold snaps to come. It's only going to get worse because the sun is quieting down for the next 5 decades or so just like it did during the mini ice age.
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