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re: The word "democracy" is mentioned no where in the US Constitution.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The thing is, there is nothing structurally preventing Congress from re-usurping its Constitutional authority any time it might see fit to actually do so.
Why would they do that? They have a pretty sweet gig going.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:25 pm to Antonio Moss
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Because we aren’t a democracy
We are a representative democracy as well as a republic. Both are true.
What you mean is that we are not a direct democracy, which is mob rule, that has never seriously existed at any point in history.
How is it possible you don’t know this?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:44 pm to 3down10
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Democracy sucks. Democracy says when 51% of the people decide they want part of your property, they have the right to do so.
We are a representative democracy as well as a constitutional republic. Look up the definitions of both.
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People think democracy is this new idea and it's not. Plato absolutely destroyed it more than 2000 years ago after living through one.
Literally one is saying it’s a new idea, idk where that came from.
You’re right that he disliked democracy, but that was 2,000 years ago under conditions nothing like today. He also preferred aristocracy by intellectual elites which looking back was a horrible idea best left in fantasy world.
Plato’s “meritocracy of the intellectual elites” would basically be us being run by a bunch of university professors and scientists who think climate change is going to end the world in 10 years.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:50 pm to Timeoday
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We are not a democracy.
When I went to the clerk today to check my box, I saw early voting signs all over.
You may want to tell them that we don't vote in this country.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:52 pm to northshorebamaman
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The civics meme that won’t die. The words “capitalism” and “Christian” aren’t in the Constitution either, yet I doubt you think that proves we’re a socialist atheist monarchy. “Republic vs democracy” is a fake binary. A republic just means no monarch. A democracy means political power comes from the voters. Most modern nations, including ours, are constitutional republics that function as representative democracies.
And note the word I bolded in your post. It's doing all the heavy lifting. You opened by attacking “democracy,” then quietly swapped in “direct democracy” like they're interchangeable. They're not. Nobody’s pushing for every citizen to vote on every law. The U.S. was built as a representative democracy, and that’s still democracy.
You only get to your conclusion by changing the definition mid argument, which makes your point a rhetorical trick, not a civics lesson.
bullshite.
A democracy is a government in which the government has no real limitations outside the supposed will of the majority. The majority is the ruling class.
A constitutional republic is a government which has no ruling class. The governments role is limited to only roles specifically listed, and nothing else. Those roles do not require only a majority, they require a super majority to happen. The overwhelming majority of our government today is against the constitution.
What we have is probably the worst of both. Where instead of representatives we elect "leaders" who then do whatever the frick they want and the only "majority" that actually matters when it comes to the limitations of their power is whatever the frick those few in power decide. More like an oligarchy.
And that's the best case even if you believe all the bullshite and ignore the extreme amounts of manipulation and flat out corruptions in our election process.
Simple question - is the Constitution a document of limited government, or is it a document of limited rights?
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When I went to the clerk today to check my box, I saw early voting signs all over.
You may want to tell them that we don't vote in this country.

Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:56 pm to TN Tygah
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We are a representative democracy as well as a constitutional republic. Look up the definitions of both.
No, one of those is a government of limited rights and the other is a government of limited power.
One means power to the elites via the supposed will of the majority, while the other means power to the people.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 5:57 pm to TN Tygah
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Literally one is saying it’s a new idea, idk where that came from.
You’re right that he disliked democracy, but that was 2,000 years ago under conditions nothing like today. He also preferred aristocracy by intellectual elites which looking back was a horrible idea best left in fantasy world.
Plato’s “meritocracy of the intellectual elites” would basically be us being run by a bunch of university professors and scientists who think climate change is going to end the world in 10 years.
Plato's vision for the perfect government was definitely flawed because it treated people as templates rather than as people. Thus assuming people would not have characteristics of all. If it was somehow possible that people were to fit templates, it'd probably work.
Personally not interested in conforming to a template.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:59 pm to 3down10
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One means power to the elites via the supposed will of the majority, while the other means power to the people.
Wrong. The “will of the majority” elects these “elites.” Period. This is what a representative democracy is. You can take 5 seconds to ask Chat GPT, Gemini, or Google it. Call your 5th grade social studies teacher. Or just watch Schoolhouse Rock.
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No, one of those is a government of limited rights and the other is a government of limited power.
Whatever that means is irrelevant and you’re overthinking it. We vote for representatives. This makes them democratically elected representatives. Hence, a representative democracy. It really is that simple.
You’re describing “direct democracy” which is total mob rule, and has not existed since 4th century BC in Athens, where there were only 25,000 legal voters. So, are you saying that democracy has never existed?
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think Dominion or Smartmatic are involved or, at least they were.
Democracy??

Democracy??
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:05 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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RelentlessAnalysis
Username does not fit at all. What a shame if you are actually an A&M grad.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:11 pm to TN Tygah
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Wrong. The “will of the majority” elects these “elites.” Period. This is what a representative democracy is. You can take 5 seconds to ask Chat GPT, Gemini, or Google it. Call your 5th grade social studies teacher. Or just watch Schoolhouse Rock.
Except they aren't supposed to be "elites". Their powers are supposed to be limited. You call it democracy so you can pretend like they represent the peoples wishes. They do not.
This is what the constitution says. It's not a document of limited rights, it's a document of limited government.
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Whatever that means is irrelevant and you’re overthinking it. We vote for representatives. This makes them democratically elected representatives. Hence, a representative democracy. It really is that simple.
It's not democracy at all. We do not elect kings or rulers who "get mandates" or any of that other bullshite the media keeps trying to sell. It's power to the people, not power to the majority.
Hell, we aren't even supposed to be voting for senators, they are supposed to represent the state governments. The house is for the people.
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You’re describing “direct democracy” which is total mob rule, and has not existed since 4th century BC in Athens, where there were only 25,000 legal voters. So, are you saying that democracy has never existed?
The people elected have direct democracy outside the few rights that are listed in the constitution and are constantly under attack by our own government.
Many states have somewhat direct democracy in the US and they are trying to expand it. California, Colorado and Oregon for example. There are plenty of other examples of it in town/city and other type places.
And personally, I don't give a frick what the majority wants. 1 person trying to rule over me is unacceptable, and 51% of the population, or their so called elected leaders ruling over me is also not acceptable.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:13 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:The silly meme is just the natural result of team jersey politics.
The republican form of government, with its system of representation and separation of powers, was designed to protect the country from the instability of a direct democracy. This was the system the Founders ultimately established to "secure the blessings of liberty".quote:
The civics meme that won’t die.
The Dems have sold a (reasonably effective) story about how Trumpism is a danger to "democracy."
So, the GOP Faithful simply MUST insist that Trump cannot be destroying "democracy," because we are "not a democracy." It is easier for the hoi polloi to remember than a complex explanation that we are not a DIRECT democracy and how the two concepts differ.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:14 pm to Timeoday
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The word "democracy" is mentioned no where in the US Constitution.
That’s because democracy is on the ballot!
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:17 pm to AquaAg84
quote:I feel much the same way about you.
What a shame if you are actually an A&M grad.
Gig'em.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:20 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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I feel much the same way about you.
Likewise New Army.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:27 pm to 3down10
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Simple question - is the Constitution a document of limited government, or is it a document of limited rights?
Limited Government I must say!!
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