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The white supremacist segment transcript
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:36 am
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Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, I’m will to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
Chris Wallace: (42:08)
Well, do it, sir.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:09)
Say it, do it say it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:10)
What do you want to call them? Give me a name, give me a name, go ahead who do you want me to condemn.
Chris Wallace: (42:14)
White supremacist and right-wing militia.
ETA by SUPA - this is the point where Biden blurts out "Proud Boys" but it isnt on this version of the transcript
President Donald J. Trump: (42:18)
Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But I’ll tell you what somebody’s got to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right wing problem this is a left wing.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:28)
He’s own FBI Director said unlike white supremacist, Antifa is an idea not an organization-
President Donald J. Trump: (42:35)
Oh you got to be kidding me.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:36)
… not a militia. That’s what his FBI Director said.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:41)
Well, then you know what, he’s wrong.
Chris Wallace: (41:33)
You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa and other left wing extremist groups. But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland.
President Donald J. Trump: (41:57)
Sure, I’m will to do that.
Chris Wallace: (41:59)
Are you prepared specifically to do it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:00)
I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not from the right wing.
Chris Wallace: (42:04)
But what are you saying?
President Donald J. Trump: (42:06)
I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace.
Chris Wallace: (42:08)
Well, do it, sir.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:09)
Say it, do it say it.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:10)
What do you want to call them? Give me a name, give me a name, go ahead who do you want me to condemn.
Chris Wallace: (42:14)
White supremacist and right-wing militia.
ETA by SUPA - this is the point where Biden blurts out "Proud Boys" but it isnt on this version of the transcript
President Donald J. Trump: (42:18)
Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But I’ll tell you what somebody’s got to do something about Antifa and the left because this is not a right wing problem this is a left wing.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:28)
He’s own FBI Director said unlike white supremacist, Antifa is an idea not an organization-
President Donald J. Trump: (42:35)
Oh you got to be kidding me.
Vice President Joe Biden: (42:36)
… not a militia. That’s what his FBI Director said.
President Donald J. Trump: (42:41)
Well, then you know what, he’s wrong.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:41 am to supatigah
Chris Wallace transmission failed in his car, but he's really concerned with the passenger window not working.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:54 am to supatigah
That actually looks a lot better than what I thought I heard (I was listening from another room).
A big problem was the form of the questions.
"Do you denounce nazis and puppies?"
A big problem was the form of the questions.
"Do you denounce nazis and puppies?"
Posted on 9/30/20 at 10:59 am to supatigah
quote:That's his answer right there.
Sure, I’m will to do that
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:00 am to supatigah
I fully reject the premise that militias are somehow anti-American.
I don't know how this bullshite came about.
Militias helped create America and they are about as American as it gets.
I don't know how this bullshite came about.
Militias helped create America and they are about as American as it gets.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:00 am to SOKAL
quote:
"Do you denounce nazis and puppies?"
Do you denounce white supremacists and... COUGH the rioting COUGH..
Wallace is a jackleg.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:01 am to SOKAL
quote:
A big problem was the form of the questions.
"Do you denounce nazis and puppies?"
Do you like popcorn and when did you stop beating your wife?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:02 am to supatigah
quote:
White supremacist and right-wing militia.
Why would he condemn militias?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:03 am to supatigah
This is getting beyond stupid.
The party that founded Antifa and the KKK gets to dictate what is acceptable here? Amazing.
The party that founded Antifa and the KKK gets to dictate what is acceptable here? Amazing.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:04 am to supatigah
quote:
Chris Wallace: (42:14)
White supremacist and right-wing militia.
This little subtlety is kinda disturbing.
Kyle Rittenhouse, I have no reason to believe he has any racial bias. But I'd say "right wing militia" crudely describes Kyle. But Chris Wallace equates the two.
The two ARE NOT synonymous and the "right wing militia" wouldn't have even been there if it weren't for the liberal idiots burning every business they could to the ground. Get antifa under control, and the right wing militia wouldn't have a reason to be out defending businesses.
Trump pressed Biden really well here, by saying that he won't use "law and order" multiple times. . . and Biden never used the words. To me this was really telling that Biden has no interest in ACTUALLY slowing down these domestic terrorists.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:04 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
militias?
And are militias inherently right wing? Way to slide that in there Wallace.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:06 am to TrueTiger
quote:
I fully reject the premise that militias are somehow anti-American. I don't know how this bull shite came about. Militias helped create America and they are about as American as it gets.
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 11:08 am
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:08 am to supatigah
At this point in the debate I about lost it. Wallace was debating President Trump with his demand for a statement. That should be the last debate the Republicans ever agree to with Wallace.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:10 am to supatigah
quote:
But are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia group and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha and as we’ve seen in Portland.
Kafka trap
The Kafka trap might also be called the SJW trap.
Author Eric Raymond coined the term Kafkatrapping in his 2010 article in which he presented a style of argument that is common today with SJW’s, but has it’s origins in The Trial a book written in 1915 by Franz Kafka.
In The Trial the protagonist is arrested and accused of serious crimes which are never specified. He receives no explanation or description of the charges, and his refusal to acknowledge that he must be guilty is what makes him guilty. The only way to stop his abuse is to admit that he is guilty.
What is the kafka trap?
In the kafka trap you are accused of being a:
Racist
Sexist
Bigot
Facist
Homophobic
Transphobic
Islamophobic
Misogynist
Nazi
Hitler
etc.
…and any attempt to argue, deny or defend yourself is seen as proof of guilt.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:13 am to supatigah
Meanwhile Biden has had friendships with real white supremacist but he never gets questioned by Cuck Wallace about those past relationships
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:13 am to SOKAL
quote:
"Do you denounce nazis and puppies?"
What's wrong with puppies?
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:19 am to QboveTopSecret
quote:
Kafka trap
The Kafka trap might also be called the SJW trap.
All this time I just thought it was just some drunk baw on the OT.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:26 am to supatigah
Trumps response should have been:
I denounce all racism. There is no place in America for it.
However I have not seen the Proud Boys burning down cities and looting stores. They are usually counter protesting Antifa. All Americans have seen Antifa using the BLM movement to hide behind and they are looting, assaulting and burning down communities. I am working on drafting an EO to proclaim the KKK and Antifa domestic terrorist organizations.
I denounce all racism. There is no place in America for it.
However I have not seen the Proud Boys burning down cities and looting stores. They are usually counter protesting Antifa. All Americans have seen Antifa using the BLM movement to hide behind and they are looting, assaulting and burning down communities. I am working on drafting an EO to proclaim the KKK and Antifa domestic terrorist organizations.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:27 am to LetsgoGamecocks
quote:
That should be the last debate the Republicans ever agree to with Wallace
They're really going to hang their hat on this white supremacy issue. Libs obviously see all trump supporters as racists, and think by getting Trump to denounce his whole base that they'll turn their back on him. I'm sure this is as obvious to everyone else, and it's really desperate.
Posted on 9/30/20 at 11:33 am to supatigah
quote:
Proud Boys, stand back and stand by
WTF does this mean? Stand by for what?
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