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re: The Irish appear to be Pissed Off
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:38 am to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:38 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Not anymore than the fact that not everyone there needs to be sufficiently fed up to make your take basically meaningless.
Why don't you tell me what my point is because I'm positive you don't know it.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:39 am to 632627
This might be a good time to talk about your deportation effort successes in the US.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:40 am to Azkiger
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Why don't you tell me what my point is because I'm positive you don't know it.
You seem to be suggesting that it is the general fault of the Irish citizenry for allowing this, no?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:42 am to Y.A. Tittle
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You seem to be suggesting that it is the general fault of the Irish citizenry for allowing this, no?
I'm suggesting a lot of bad policy was passed with barely a peep from anyone in Ireland, and while I am happy people are rightfully angry, I pointed out that they should have been more vocal sooner.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:58 am to Azkiger
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suggesting a lot of bad policy was passed with barely a peep from anyone in Ireland, and while I am happy people are rightfully angry, I pointed out that they should have been more vocal sooner.
This operates under the assumption that the government in power has any willingness or desire to listen to what their constituents want.
The EU has proven that it does not care what the native Europeans want. It's essentially unelected and despotic. The people of Western Europe are being subjagated and lorded over by leaders that actually hate them.
Once upon a time, the US and England came to liberate Europe from despotism. Europe needs it again, but England is lost.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:06 am to burke985
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People always wake up when it's too late
I understand the sentiment, but it’s really not too late. Northern Ireland is 96% white. England is still over 85% white. It is over if changes do not start to occur, but based on what we are seeing across the UK, including the recent elections, the politicians are going to have a difficult time keeping the status quo. The old tired line from politicians of calling native Brit’s racist for having an issue with all the immigration is not working anymore.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:12 am to burke985
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People always wake up when it's too late
There is always a line in the sand that must be crossed before Good men are willing to give up everything they own for the cause. I pray that when it is crossed here that many more than one will be willing stand to do what it takes to right the wrongs
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:13 am to Azkiger
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I'm suggesting a lot of bad policy was passed with barely a peep from anyone in Ireland, and while I am happy people are rightfully angry, I pointed out that they should have been more vocal sooner.
You understand, I don't have to believe you are completely wrong here (I don't) for the post of mine to which you responded to still be correct?
Sometimes the boiling frogs actually get that they are being boiled. Sometimes it can occur soon enough.
We shall see, I suppose.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:14 am to RoyalAir
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This operates under the assumption that the government in power has any willingness or desire to listen to what their constituents want.
No it doesn't.
I'm not making any claims about the government, just about the population not trying to keep the government's horrible policy in check.
Also, how would they even know the government won't listen to them if they never spoke up?
Also, if the government not listening is the reason they're didn't speak up, why are they speaking up now?
I don't buy your take for one second. People who are watching their country fall apart don't just sit back and let it happen because their government won't listen. They get vocal, try and create countermovements, etc. And if they really do just sit and take it, then that's my point right there isn't it.
Not sure why people are arguing with me on this.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:15 am to Penrod
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It’s a giant step from bloviating on the internet to actually risking everything you have. Think about that in respect to our situation. A lot of us talk tough about what we would do in similar circumstances, but go through the actual steps you would have to take in your mind. Are you truly ready to don a mask, get out your gun and walk out your front door?
There will come a time when it becomes necessity. It will be a choice between subjugation and war. That time will come for a large portion of Americans when the 2A is abolished.
That's the bridge where I personally take a stand. Yes, I know it will already be too late, but I will stand nonetheless.
I don't get on here and pontificate about the faux glory of civil war. In fact, I caution everyone against it. It's coming, but we really don't want it like we think we do. It's going to be government-backed factions vs. "rebels" (self-identified nationalist patriots). The government/establishment factions will have all the modern amenities like drones and other technology that are changing the face of armed combat. The other team, will have their guns and their wits- guerilla warfare. Uneasy alliances (potentially legally traitorous by definition) would have to be struck to receive armaments, tech and ordnance to level the playing field.
It's not going to be a bunch of deer hunter redneck baws in tree stands picking off brigades of green-haired feminazis and soy boys like so many want to fantasize it will be. It's going to be ugly, brutal, visceral and heartless. And most importantly, it will be completely unpredictable.
I say again, we DON'T want it. But we're headed there anyway. Flame away, everyone who wants it and hopes for it. It's not going to be anything close to your fantastical machinations of the creative brain.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:15 am to Penrod
Double posted. Apologies.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 11:17 am
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:20 am to Azkiger
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Not sure why people are arguing with me on this.
Because you're arguing on a message board, and this is what a message board is for.
It's not a secret that vast swaths of Europe have very low thresholds for hate speech. Organizing and even discussing such things is literally illegal in large parts of Europe.
So, the good citizens are quiet in public, but likely talk in private. But that time appears to have now passed, and there is demonstration, with the consequences of organizing being damned.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:24 am to RoyalAir
I think it's probably wrong to assume that there are a lot of people "voting for" this kind of shite.
Could the citizenry have been more proactive? Sure. But that's largely the point/reason for the slow creep of it all.
Could the citizenry have been more proactive? Sure. But that's largely the point/reason for the slow creep of it all.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:26 am to Y.A. Tittle
Why the seemingly sudden anchor here?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:40 am to Sams Crow
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Like the Revolutionary War?
Exactly. Let me know when they do something more than pose like strutting peacocks. The current riot atmosphere is the perfect time for them to prove they are more than performatives doing nothing more aping things they've only experienced through media.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:38 pm to Sams Crow
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Like the IRA?
Like continuing to beat your head against a wall in an attempt to come up with a decent counter-point, failing and then instead of considering maybe there's veracity to the point you just keep beating your head against the wall with failed attempts.
Your poor attempts don't change the truth of the matter that social media posturing is only performative. Instead of wasting their time posturing that they might, maybe, someday, possibly could potentially do something, if they were serious they would be using that time actually doing that something they're threatening they may do... eventually.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:57 pm to BTROleMisser
Hard to believe he's been dead for 40 years.
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