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re: The West doesn't have the industrial capacity to fight major ground wars.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:44 pm to Narax
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:44 pm to Narax
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The Soviet Union in 1945 was actually planning on attacking the western Allies before the A-Bomb went off.
Got a link?
I've read plenty of WWII history and have never seen this even intimated.
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:47 pm to dnm3305
They will definitely knock all our power, water and comms down for sure.
I have no doubt we would eventually prevail against any opponents but only if we could survive long enough to get our industry up and going.
How long would that take?? I have no idea but I bet 6 to 9 months just to start making weapons of war but still not in quantity.
I have no doubt we would eventually prevail against any opponents but only if we could survive long enough to get our industry up and going.
How long would that take?? I have no idea but I bet 6 to 9 months just to start making weapons of war but still not in quantity.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:50 pm to RiverCityTider
The US can damp up munition manufacturing in the blink of an eye. Ford, GM, Chrysler, and every other auto plant in the US would convert to building tanks and aircraft—just like in WW2
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:58 pm to RiverCityTider
It’s what happens when British allowed themselves to be destroyed from the inside.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:00 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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defense manufacturing base in the United States
Sounds America first to me.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:03 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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We don't have the bodies to support a ground war. Much less the industrial base. I read a paper published by the war college awhile back illustrating the point pretty well. Attrition due to casualty would give us 3-8 months of fighting capability.
Not sure the exact figures but I read that 2/3 of Gen Z is to obese to enter basic training. Keep in mind, they usually give you a 20lb loophole.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:36 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I need some sauces for this. I've never seen anything even remotely hinting at this.
Besides, Stalin knew what was up. He knew the Red Army would get it's arse kicked by the United States in '45-'46.
I need to look through my books, it wasn't something I found on the internet.
Possibly Blueprints for Battle or Guns at Last Light, or Making of the Atomic Bomb...
It was related to his reaction to his spy reports to the bombs.
Of course Churchill was already lobbying for Operation Unthinkable.
But I will try to dig up where I read that.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:40 pm to RiverCityTider
You guys should follow Andrei. He is former Soviet Navy and lives in Washington state. He has been saying these things for years.
Smoothiex12blog.
Smoothiex12blog.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:47 pm to Bunk Moreland
Did a little looking at apparently we are working towards upping production capacity of 155MM shells to 100K per month from around 30K currently.
As others have said, we really need to be able to mass produce military drones of all sizes and that means everything that goes into them.
Warfare is changing. One benefit of the current war going on in Ukraine is it pushing development of new tactics and hardware much faster than a bunch of guys sitting around spitballing asking for new hardware because the have a theory.
As others have said, we really need to be able to mass produce military drones of all sizes and that means everything that goes into them.
Warfare is changing. One benefit of the current war going on in Ukraine is it pushing development of new tactics and hardware much faster than a bunch of guys sitting around spitballing asking for new hardware because the have a theory.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:53 pm to RiverCityTider
Same could be said in early 1941. But we could ramp up much quicker than we did in WWII. Took us till 44 to really crank things out.
Our navy and air force are still 1st in the world by far. So no one is invading mainland US.
Our navy and air force are still 1st in the world by far. So no one is invading mainland US.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:02 pm to CharlesUFarley
We mismanaged the frick out of our air assets in Viet Nam. Those B-52s should have been bombing Hanoi in 1965-66.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:07 am to FightinTigersDammit
We had too many rules and regulation of what we could do and where we could go in the Vietnam war.
It completely takes your advantage of being superior to your enemy with those regulations.
War is not pretty. We should have leveled that whole dam area. Would’ve saved tons of Americans lives. Imagine the generations of families forever changed by the way we decided to fight that war.
It completely takes your advantage of being superior to your enemy with those regulations.
War is not pretty. We should have leveled that whole dam area. Would’ve saved tons of Americans lives. Imagine the generations of families forever changed by the way we decided to fight that war.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:10 am to RiverCityTider
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The West doesn't have the industrial capacity to fight major ground wars.
Heavy industry? To hell it dont.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:10 am to Tight 10
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We control the skies
For now, we need to skip the next Gen Fighter and be the first to field drones that can handle CAP and CAS.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:13 am to SoFla Tideroller
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The problem with reacquiring a defense manufacturing base in the United States is you'd get opposition from people who consider themselves America First screaming, "MIC!!! MIC!!!"
That and the regulations that make munitions factories cost prohibitive!
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:16 am to RiverCityTider
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In 2023, China constructed over 1,000 vessels, while the United States built fewer than 10
What ships are they building though? Norfolk alone has more carriers than all of China.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:25 am to Tight 10
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We control the skies. Game over
Don’t really believe that?
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:26 am to POTUS2024
S-500 hahaha. They can’t even keep the 1 system they have in service operational. I’m sure they will also start mass producing the T-14 and SU-57 any day now.
Posted on 3/8/25 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Vietnam was never a threat to the United States. If we wanted to, we could've bombed the frick out of them and beat them into submission without putting a single boot on the ground there. Same goes for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yeah, that statement tells me that this moron was a pogue or is stolen valor.
How many times has somebody proven wrong with the Air Superiority make ground operations obsolete argument?
Posted on 3/8/25 at 9:01 am to ABearsFanNMS
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Yeah, that statement tells me that this moron was a pogue or is stolen valor.
Your disagreement with my statement guarantees that you're full of shite.
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How many times has somebody proven wrong with the Air Superiority make ground operations obsolete argument?
Not because of "Air Superiority," sport.
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