re: The vaxxed sure have been quiet in recent months.

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ie omicron. No vaccine necessary for same outcome

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A large majority of Americans had been vaccinated or had the disease before by the time omicron rolled around, so there’s really no way to say that. What I can say is that virtually everyone I saw who was severely ill with it, the relatively few that were anyway, had neither been infected or vaccinated before.

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Dude, even Pfizer didn't mandate it for their employees. What else do you need to see, lol

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I remember early on when the Pfizer CEO was pushing the vaccine in an interview.
The interviewer asked him if he had been vaccinated.
The Pfizer CEO said that he had not been vaccinated because he didn't want to cut in line.

I agree there are very few people at a high enough risk from the newer variants who have also never had the disease or been vaccinated to warrant vaccination at present. I’d wager the number of such people in this country is, at most, several hundred thousand. You’re talking people post-retirement age with at least two significant risk factors and who’ve not already gotten sick or vaccinated. That’s an increasingly small pool.

Vaccinating kids, especially those under age 12, is retarded in most cases. A healthy 10 year old has a higher chance statistically of dying in a car wreck in any given year than they do even being hospitalized with newer covid variants, let alone dying. It’s just a complete waste of public health resources.

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The vaxxed sure have been quiet in recent months

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Probably because they're not obsessed psychopaths like the anti vax cult?

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someone vaccinated in 2020 is protected from omicron in 2022?

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Omicron isn’t the dominant variant anywhere anymore that I’m aware of, but to your question it depends on what you mean by protected. If you mean “can’t get the disease”, then no. There is very little protection from infection from newer variants with vaccination. If however you mean protection with respect to severity of illness, which clinically is what really matters, then yes. Both prior infection with previous variants and vaccination offer seemingly robust protection from severe disease and death from infection with newer variants.

And yes, natural infection offers superior immunity to vaccination (because I know you’ll bring this up). I’ve never disputed that and it was always going to be the case.

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How long does natural immunity last for the same variant?

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It’s hard to know because we’re only a few years into this, but most likely a very long time.

The issue is that many people think immunity means “can’t get the disease”. In reality, immunity is any degree of immune protection confered by prior exposure (vaccine or natural infection).

Now that being said, short term you’re very unlikely to get infected twice with the same variant. Nearly all reinfections are with different variants, and are almost always milder.

I've been vaccinated. I guess my problem is redigging the trenches from you won't catch it (an obvious lie as even you admit and something that can absolutely be proven one way or the other) to it helps make it less severe which is very difficult to prove as everyone seems to react differently. Given that all the experts started this off lying I'm not very willing to listen to much they have to say now or in the future. And forcing this lie on children and adults re: employment all based on lies deserves jail time by someone at the very least

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This hasn’t been my experience at all. I see essentially all the covid patients who come through a couple different hospitals and I can’t remember the last time I saw someone who was vaccinated and/or had covid before that died. It was probably around January if I had to guess. Maybe 2-3 a month that end up in the ICU for some period of time. quote: Are you fully boosted? If not, why? I got the initial vaccine series in late-2020 into 2021 and then got covid in the spring of 2021, so by the time I was even offered a booster I had been both vaccinated and had the disease. No study has ever demonstrated a benefit in a healthy mid-30s individual from further vaccination with that history. I don’t see any reason to get it. I’ve had covid a second time since then and only had a headache and congestion for a day. I don’t see what would have been different had I had any additional shots. I did see what could have been different had I gotten it without ever being infected or getting vaccinated, which is why I got vaccinated in the first place.

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Exactly my stance. I am AGAINST any mandates. I hate the fricking government too. But I think the vax helped me “curb” my illness and I don’t think I need a booster because this thing is only getting weaker.

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Probably because they're not obsessed psychopaths like the anti vax cult?

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Anti-MANDATE.

Why can't you people get this through your heads?

People don't care if you choose to take the vaccine.
People opposed vaccine mandate if you want to work, go to school, travel etc.

It would be like the people who chose not to take the vaccine pushing for you to be made unemployable, unable to attend school, unable to travel etc if you chose to take the vax.

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Hey just a quick question, does a rain coat prevent you from getting wet in the rain?

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Does chicken wire that’s being called an umbrella stop rain?