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re: The unvaccinated is becoming the new Jew. Biden admin is the new Hitler.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:44 pm to GodnCountry
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:44 pm to GodnCountry
This is bad and you should feel bad
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:45 pm to GodnCountry
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:47 pm to Stidham8
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This is dumb. The vaccine is very safe aside from a few outliers that get put in the limelight. I got it and am fine. All of my friends have gotten it and are fine.
This is dumb. COVID isn’t dangerous aside from a few outliers that get put in the limelight. I got it and am fine. All of my friends have gotten it and are fine.
See how that works?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:48 pm to Boring
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This is dumb. COVID isn’t dangerous aside from a few outliers that get put in the limelight. I got it and am fine. All of my friends have gotten it and are fine.
See how that works?
Galaxy Brain take right here
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:49 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:50 pm to jimmy the leg
1. I don't read everyone of your posts, and if you’re replying to me don’t assume I have. Calling me out about ignoring something you said several pages ago is egotistical.
2. You’re argument oscillated between trump supporters and unvaccinated. So again it’s a good example of how this is different.
If a Trump supporter gets vaccinated, they get all the benefits and privileges of any other vaccinated person. My parents are vaccinated, both voted for Trump twice.
There was literally nothing jews could do to avoid being lumped in as Jews.
So we’re back to whether treating unvaccinated people differently is unjustified or if the Nazi’s treatment of Jews was justified.
It’s a bad comparison, because again, the Nazis didn’t want the Jews to stop being Jews. They weren’t forcing conversion. They were about wiping them out as an ethnicity.
A better argument/comparison would be this is like the Spanish Inquisition, but no one ever expects that arguement.
2. You’re argument oscillated between trump supporters and unvaccinated. So again it’s a good example of how this is different.
If a Trump supporter gets vaccinated, they get all the benefits and privileges of any other vaccinated person. My parents are vaccinated, both voted for Trump twice.
There was literally nothing jews could do to avoid being lumped in as Jews.
So we’re back to whether treating unvaccinated people differently is unjustified or if the Nazi’s treatment of Jews was justified.
It’s a bad comparison, because again, the Nazis didn’t want the Jews to stop being Jews. They weren’t forcing conversion. They were about wiping them out as an ethnicity.
A better argument/comparison would be this is like the Spanish Inquisition, but no one ever expects that arguement.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:01 pm to jimmy the leg
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So you are okay with the “jab of job” scenario?
There’s a big difference between, this is fricked up and not ok and this is like being a Jew in Hitler’s Germany, or under Mao or Stalin or any of the other mass genocides the OP was comparing us too.
People ate each other during the Holodomor under Stalin to survive. I’ve read reports of children found eating themselves. It’s horrific. Have some perspective is all I’m saying
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:06 pm to SammyTiger
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If a Trump supporter gets vaccinated, they get all the benefits and privileges of any other vaccinated person.
Leftist will always be authoritarian at heart.
Thanks for proving my point.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:08 pm to GodnCountry
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The former Chair of the NIH data saftey board says that we should have shut it down in Feb after we reached 186 deaths related to the shots.
Do you agree we should have shut it down because some people died?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:08 pm to jimmy the leg
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Leftist will always be authoritarian at heart.
Thanks for proving my point.
Except I completely disproved it. Again, my parents got the vaccine because they wanted to be vaccinated. Not to avoid any political drama or because they felt forced to.
This is a consequence of a choice. Not a witch hunt of a certain ethnicity.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:09 pm to MAADFACTS
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There’s a big difference between, this is fricked up and not ok and this is like being a Jew in Hitler’s Germany, or under Mao or Stalin or any of the other mass genocides the OP was comparing us too.
You are conflating my post with the OP’s.
My observation is based on processes.
You deflected, and didn’t answer the question.
So once again, are you okay with the “jab or job” scenario for a pandemic with a recovery rate above 99%?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:14 pm to SammyTiger
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Leftist will always be authoritarian at heart.
Thanks for proving my point.
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Except I completely disproved it.
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If a Trump supporter gets vaccinated, they get all the benefits and privileges of any other vaccinated person.
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This is a consequence of a choice.
Losing ones livelihood unless you get the jab, while “technically“ a choice, it isn’t really a choice, now is it?
Just denounce your beliefs or lose everything.
Like I said...authoritarian.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:23 pm to jimmy the leg
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Losing ones livelihood unless you get the jab, while “technically“ a choice, it isn’t really a choice, now is it?
Just denounce your beliefs or lose everything.
Like I said...authoritarian.
It’s much more of a choice than Ethnic jews got in Nazi Germany.
And I would Argue it’s a big difference between the government requiring it and a business. Do you not agree a business owner should have a choice in whether his employees can spread a communicable disease to each other?
Also, your point was that Trump supporters and the unvaccinated are being marginalized, but Trump supporters who are vaccinated are not. This is 100% based on your ability to spread a communicable disease, and we get that you don’t give a frick about it, but your belief don’t end at you. Of course you’re calling posters out on “deflecting” while you drag the argument away from The OPs shitty comparison.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:28 pm to jimmy the leg
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So once again, are you okay with the “jab or job” scenario for a pandemic with a recovery rate above 99%?
I did not deflect, I said it’s not ok and fricked up. You were replying to a post of mine that was written in response to the hysteria of the op. I’m not vaccinated and don’t plan to be.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:29 pm to GodnCountry
They dont even realize its the Blacks that aren’t getting it done. 23%
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:33 pm to jimmy the leg
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Losing ones livelihood unless you get the jab, while “technically“ a choice, it isn’t really a choice, now is it?
I agree with everything else on your post, but you can get another job. It’s not a choice if the government mandates no one can be employed unless they are vaxxed. If my boss tells me I can’t work unless I get vaxxed, I’ll have another job inside a week. Is it fair? No. But what’s a moral stand if there’s nothing to stand against anyway?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:37 pm to Powerman
This is a terrible comparison, but....
I don't think people have an issue with "promotion," it's the stuff that goes beyond that- mandates, IC cards, etc.
Secondly, the list of things that we could "promote," (read: legally mandate, implement ID Cards, restrictions, ostracize for incorrect behavior, etc.) to "save lives," goes far far beyond a single vaccine. And I think that's part of the issue.
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The irony is the people that are promoting the vaccine are doing so in an effort to save lives
And the thanks they get from that from the death cult is being compared to murderous dictators
I don't think people have an issue with "promotion," it's the stuff that goes beyond that- mandates, IC cards, etc.
Secondly, the list of things that we could "promote," (read: legally mandate, implement ID Cards, restrictions, ostracize for incorrect behavior, etc.) to "save lives," goes far far beyond a single vaccine. And I think that's part of the issue.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:50 pm to SammyTiger
You are hung up on a one to one comparison.
I stated once (yes I know, how dare I ask that you read) that my thoughts revolves around processes.
Businesses get their guidance from the government (CDC). It isn’t exactly organic.
Where is the line drawn in the name of “public health?” The flu? Colds? Herpes? HIV? AIDS?
I mean, if a business had said to ban gays due to AIDS in the 80’s, where would you have stood on the issue? With the businesses, or with the AIDS victims? In the early days, there was a shite ton of misinformation. The irony, of course, is that Dr. Fauchi was in charge of that course of action back then as well.
A better question, should a dentist with HIV or AIDS be forced out of business?
I am correct in stating that they are being vilified, but only if they are unvaccinated Trump supporters. Unvaccinated blacks have yet to be mentioned in the same vein. Perhaps the socio-economics of the situation come into play. There are plenty of poor Trump supporters, many on government assistance (Covid related or otherwise). What would your thoughts be on banning them (and anyone else, blacks, Hispanics) from from assistance until they can prove that they have had the jab?
Answer the emboldened questions above if you dare. My guess is that you will deflect and decline.
I stated once (yes I know, how dare I ask that you read) that my thoughts revolves around processes.
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And I would Argue it’s a big difference between the government requiring it and a business
Businesses get their guidance from the government (CDC). It isn’t exactly organic.
Where is the line drawn in the name of “public health?” The flu? Colds? Herpes? HIV? AIDS?
I mean, if a business had said to ban gays due to AIDS in the 80’s, where would you have stood on the issue? With the businesses, or with the AIDS victims? In the early days, there was a shite ton of misinformation. The irony, of course, is that Dr. Fauchi was in charge of that course of action back then as well.
A better question, should a dentist with HIV or AIDS be forced out of business?
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Also, your point was that Trump supporters and the unvaccinated are being marginalized.
I am correct in stating that they are being vilified, but only if they are unvaccinated Trump supporters. Unvaccinated blacks have yet to be mentioned in the same vein. Perhaps the socio-economics of the situation come into play. There are plenty of poor Trump supporters, many on government assistance (Covid related or otherwise). What would your thoughts be on banning them (and anyone else, blacks, Hispanics) from from assistance until they can prove that they have had the jab?
Answer the emboldened questions above if you dare. My guess is that you will deflect and decline.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:52 pm to Freauxzen
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the list of things that we could "promote," (read: legally mandate, implement ID Cards, restrictions, ostracize for incorrect behavior, etc.) to "save lives," goes far far beyond a single vaccine. And I think that's part of the issue.
You are going to hurt Samantha’s feelings with a logical post like that.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:03 pm to jimmy the leg
And you accused another poster of deflecting when you just want to completely change the subject.
New to the planet?
What is your workplace like?
We have laws that are aimed at stoping the spread of AIDS in ways it can actually be spread. You cannot do at blood, you cannot work in porn. Pretending like how we mismanaged AIDS is relevant to how we manage Covid is assuming. Do you think you can’t spread it to you coworkers?
I disagree that only unvaccinated Trump supporters are being villagers. Unvaccinated people in general are getting the heat they deserve.
And again, all of this is you deflecting from the OP making a comparison to Jews in Nazi Germany. If the Nazi only carres about Jewish communist and communist, i don’t think we talk about them in the same light.
Another thing: comparing specific aspects of the Nazis is an worthless endeavor. You’re trying to draw a comparison to a university vilified group while ignoring that they’re university vilified for the totality and extent of their actions.
If you want to play history review, do you think business should have banned people with tuberculosis from working in tight spaces?
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Where is the line drawn in the name of “public health?” The flu? Colds?
New to the planet?
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Herpes? HIV? AIDS?
What is your workplace like?
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I mean, if a business had said to ban gays due to AIDS in the 80’s, where would you have stood on the issue? With the businesses, or with the AIDS victims? In the early days, there was a shite ton of misinformation. The irony, of course, is that Dr. Fauchi was in charge of that course of action back then as well.
A better question, should a dentist with HIV or AIDS be forced out of business?
We have laws that are aimed at stoping the spread of AIDS in ways it can actually be spread. You cannot do at blood, you cannot work in porn. Pretending like how we mismanaged AIDS is relevant to how we manage Covid is assuming. Do you think you can’t spread it to you coworkers?
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I am correct in stating that they are being vilified, but only if they are unvaccinated Trump supporters.
I disagree that only unvaccinated Trump supporters are being villagers. Unvaccinated people in general are getting the heat they deserve.
And again, all of this is you deflecting from the OP making a comparison to Jews in Nazi Germany. If the Nazi only carres about Jewish communist and communist, i don’t think we talk about them in the same light.
Another thing: comparing specific aspects of the Nazis is an worthless endeavor. You’re trying to draw a comparison to a university vilified group while ignoring that they’re university vilified for the totality and extent of their actions.
If you want to play history review, do you think business should have banned people with tuberculosis from working in tight spaces?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 5:17 pm
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