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re: The untold human cost of COVID19
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:36 am to NoHoTiger
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:36 am to NoHoTiger
quote:Catching the virus is a far better outcome than falling into deep depression. And it’s not close. Those that say otherwise don’t understand depression. And I’m not knocking them. Many don’t understand it.
For me, personally, depressive episodes have been worse. Anxiety is out of control and restorative sleep is virtually nonexistent. Regardless of your profession, this virus and the cures, are causing major issues for lots of people. In short, there are many people at their breaking point.
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:43 am to Tiguar
quote:
You can’t travel anywhere because it’s “wear a mask” or there are shutdowns.
This is false. I’ve gone to the lake multiple times. There are many outdoor activities out there to do
Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:50 am to abellsujr
Posted on 7/18/20 at 1:03 am to Tiguar
quote:
Tiguar
The balls of someone to complain about a well-paying in-demand job when there are so many millions of people who have have lost their jobs, businesses, and livelihoods.
frick you
Posted on 7/18/20 at 1:19 am to EKG
Gassed? There's people going to die if we let their care givers be 'gassed'. frick that shite. Hire more if we need to give them more time off. Their time off ain't the issue. There's people actually going in the fricking ground here.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:34 am to badguppy
quote:So let me get this straight ... we REMOVED 30 million tons of uranium from Navajo land, but that some how has ADDED uranium to the Navajo water table 35yrs after mining was completed? Is that your story? Really?
If the federal government had kept their promise to clean up the old uranium mines the Navajo could have clean well water on the inherited rez they were forced to migrate to. But this prolly ain't the place for that converstaion.
With regard to your bitching about Arizona flying CV19 patients to New Mexico, you do realize that in ALL likelihood, despite your idiot governor's proclamations to the contrary, New Mexico sends more CV19 patients to other states than vice versa?
You do know that, correct?
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:40 am to Tiguar
Can you answer a question that enters my mind every time I hear about overworked hospitals?
What are hospitals actually doing for covid patients that couldn't be done for them at home? I'm not saying that nothing is being done. I'm sincerely asking what actually occurs.
What are hospitals actually doing for covid patients that couldn't be done for them at home? I'm not saying that nothing is being done. I'm sincerely asking what actually occurs.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 6:41 am
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:42 am to td01241
quote:What an unusual take.
Look Op, I work in the medical field. Psychiatry so it’s not the same as you but I’m seeing the effects on people too. It stresses me out. I just don’t feel I can freely and openly complain about it
Psychiatry?
Yet you interpret the OP's simple description of circumstance as a ""complaint""?
Then you promote suppression?
Seems really odd from a psych standpoint.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:49 am to ML Crisis
quote:IV hydration, medical observation with symptomatic intervention, O2, CPAP, BiPAP, mechanical ventilation, etc.
What are hospitals actually doing for covid patients that couldn't be done for them at home? I'm not saying that nothing is being done.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:52 am to badguppy
No one around here has any knowledge of that. Every now and then a patient can't be treated here due to hospital capability, not capacity. Just like in most states. Obviously that's unrelated to sending patients out of state because of a lack of capacity. Do you have a link I can check out?
Posted on 7/18/20 at 6:55 am to Tiguar
The fact that the OP got 41 downvotes is absolutely pathetic.
Stay strong buddy, I have many of the same fears and struggles right now.
Stay strong buddy, I have many of the same fears and struggles right now.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:01 am to badguppy
quote:
You're doing the right thing by not chancing it. Truly sucks and you'll never know if it was even necessary but if you risked it and did pass it onto them the guilt you would feel might be insurmountable.
This is a bullshite take. I reject it completely.
We will all end up in Matrix pods if that way of thinking prevails.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:04 am to ML Crisis
quote:
What are hospitals actually doing for covid patients that couldn't be done for them at home? I'm not saying that nothing is being done. I'm sincerely asking what actually occurs.
All depends on the patient’s individual needs
Standard supplemental oxygen
IV fluids
Dexamethasone
Remdesivir
Convalescent plasma
Tociluzimab
DVT prophylaxis
Antibiotics (if super infected)
High flow nasal cannula
Intubation
Pressors
And so on
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:11 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Standard supplemental oxygen
IV fluids
Dexamethasone
Remdesivir
Convalescent plasma
Tociluzimab
DVT prophylaxis
Antibiotics (if super infected)
High flow nasal cannula
Intubation
Pressors
Thanks and thanks to the other poster who responded as well.
I have a family friend 70+ who received oxygen at home and is recovering well. I suspect that if he had gone to the hospital, they would have treated him there and kept him there for the duration and wonder whether more people couldn't be treated outside of the hospital.
I'm basing these speculations on reports that hospitals are taking patients now that they wouldnt have taken in March and April, and I hope that further lockdowns aren't being justified based on hospital capacity that doesn't need to be used.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:14 am to Tiguar
quote:
Is there a difference in being deployed for 6 months and isolating yourself from your family for 6 months because you don’t want to kill them?
Do you think you are the only one doing that ? I've worked 7 days a week 12 hrs a day since November. I don't see my elderly family members because people are dropping out left and right at work with rona..
This isn't isolated to the medical community..
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:28 am to GATORGAR247
Shut the F up OP and go vent and cry a river in your pillow. Lives have been destroyed economically over this politically driven virus and you still work.
So shut the frick up.
So shut the frick up.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:30 am to badguppy
quote:
Obviously that's unrelated to sending patients out of state because of a lack of capacity. Do you have a link I can check out?
quote:
Clay Holderman, Presbyterian’s chief operating officer, said that 96 coronavirus patients from the Navajo Nation in Arizona have been accepted since the coronavirus pandemic began in mid-March but that only two such patients have arrived in the past week. Such patients are generally transferred either by helicopter or small aircraft, he said.
A UNM Health Sciences spokesman also confirmed that UNM Hospital has accepted out-of-state patients for treatment, but he declined to say how many.
Meanwhile, a state Department of Health spokesman said COVID-19 patients have been transferred to Albuquerque from Arizona as needed over the course of the pandemic, but not in large enough numbers to affect New Mexico’s ability to take care of its own residents.
...
Overall, Human Services Secretary David Scrase said this week, New Mexico probably sends more patients to other states than vice versa. People who live near state lines, he said, routinely go to the nearest hospital when they’re sick, regardless of whether it’s in another state.
“I would be really surprised if we were a net importer of COVID cases right now,” Scrase said.
LINK
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:32 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:Indeed.
The fact that the OP got 41 downvotes is absolutely pathetic.
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:33 am to ML Crisis
quote:Just curious.
This is a bullshite take.
How many Covid-19 infected individuals do you come into contact with daily?
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:36 am to Tiguar
quote:
I feel like a foot soldier on a battlefield with a large enemy sniper presence. You just know you’re going to get hit, you just don’t know when or where. Except it doesn’t kill me, it kills people I care about.
This is Okinawa
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