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The trade showdown with China is at it's heart a national security issue.

Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:08 pm
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:08 pm
The Chinese want world domination and nothing short of that will suffice. They are patient, lie and never stick to any agreement they make. And since they are an authoritarian nation they speak with one voice. Once and if they take the lead on technology they will live like dogs in order to support and gain military domination and when they do we are done. Our existence as a nation is literally at stake at some future time and DJT knows that.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 9:13 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:11 pm to
This whole post is true.

Only a small minority of people understand this though.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37595 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

Our existence as a nation is literally at stake at some future time and DJT knows that.




But IB Freeman says tariffs are bad
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:19 pm to
Don’t really think of China much when it’s all Russia, Russia, Russia
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8588 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:19 pm to
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But IB Freeman


Probably the most clueless poster I have ever seen on this board
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48128 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:20 pm to
He isn’t clueless. He is dishonest. He personally profits from the lack of tariffs.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:20 pm to
Yep. They have been playing the decades-long strategy to de-industrialize the US (industry is the backbone of military).

They Subsidize Chinas steel industry and Dump cheap steel here , and force US plants to close.

Do the same with technology and other sectors. Over time we’re hollowed out and vulnerable.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9084 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:24 pm to
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He isn’t clueless. He is dishonest. He personally profits from the lack of tariffs.


I totally disagree. Dude has been a pure free market advocate ever since I've been reading this board.

You can disagree w his views, but you know where he stands on every economic issue BECAUSE of his honesty.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Yep. They have been playing the decades-long strategy to de-industrialize the US (industry is the backbone of military). 

They Subsidize Chinas steel industry and Dump cheap steel here , and force US plants to close. 

Do the same with technology and other sectors. Over time we’re hollowed out and vulnerable.


It's knowledge like this which separates the smart conservatives from the naive libbies.

Unfortunately these libs vote on their naivety.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8802 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:28 pm to
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Dude has been a pure free market advocate ever since I've been reading this board.


China is not a free market. The US is competing against China on an uneven field.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:31 pm to
quote:


I totally disagree. Dude has been a pure free market advocate ever since I've been reading this board. 

You can disagree w his views, but you know where he stands on every economic issue BECAUSE of his honesty.


His problem is that he only sees things through his little bubble. He can't fathom that tariffs have a lot more to do than a simple trade deal.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10229 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 9:43 pm to
This is correct. China is our largest threat, and has been for some time.

Tariffs are a short term strategy, and people who fret over short term strategy are short sighted.

Do not trust them, or their instinct.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:03 pm to
I’m betting IBADumbass has never even studied the belt and road initiative China is currently involved in and considered the debt practices its using their to take over areas of other nations to the debt practices its been using in America.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14414 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

He personally profits from the lack of tariffs.


This. I'm betting the majority of his income is based on the sale of Chinese imports. Maybe not just Chinese but foreign imports.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48128 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

You can disagree w his views, but you know where he stands on every economic issue BECAUSE of his honesty.


He is motivated purely by his own pockets. Ask him.

His dishonesty is in his presentation. He knowingly posts misleading and flat out untrue statements/arguments. He ignores facts that prove him wrong. And continues to post as if he never was proven wrong.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 10:07 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19008 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
Good video for anybody not familiar with Belt and Roads debt practices

LINK
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:11 pm to
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. He ignores facts that prove him wrong. And continues to post as if he never was proven wrong.


Honestly that could apply to any lib here
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

It's knowledge like this which separates the smart conservatives from the naive libbies. Unfortunately these libs vote on their naivety.


I’d like to see Trump explain exactly what I described above during a prime time address to the nation. Or during SOTU.

People need to understand why he’s doing what he’s doing.

Chinas intentions aren’t pure. China isn’t trying to improve themselves as much as they are trying to cripple us. That is their objective. And we’ve been a willing participant. Until now.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 10:26 pm
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:27 pm to
He can't let the Chinese publically lose face in this. It'll trigger a much bigger retaliation.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 5/11/19 at 10:44 pm to
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He can't let the Chinese publically lose face in this. It'll trigger a much bigger retaliation.


I agree it would make shite messy, but they need to be called out on it. They have very little leverage and the world needs to recognize the Chinese for what they are tying to do - collapse democracy
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 10:45 pm
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