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re: The tariffs imposed on US from Trump spreadsheet are literally just the trade ratio
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:52 am to AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:52 am to AbuTheMonkey
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The Run Swift 3 is far cheaper than New Balance (and likely is at a price point at which NB could not feasibly offer), for comparison.
Lol i gave you more than jordans as an example.
I could do this with every brand.
The nike vaporflys are more than jordans and new balances.
Made overseas.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:53 am to AbuTheMonkey
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Because the Jordan brand demands a premium, not because of how and where they are made.
I bet the profit margin on a pair of chi-com Jordans would make a drug dealer blush.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:54 am to Flats
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I bet the profit margin on a pair of chi-com Jordans would make a drug dealer blush.
Why do you keep bringing up jordans?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:56 am to Flats
here is a $300 shoe not made in the US.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 11:58 am to Boss
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What's your point here?
Some shoes cost more than $200 and some cost less.
I'm not sure why he felt like he needed to point that out, but ok. Somebody may not have known.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:00 pm to Flats
Also made in the USA...lol
That’s the crux of a new class action lawsuit against New Balance. The case, filed by five consumers, argues that the sneaker brand misleads customers by marketing many of its shoes as locally manufactured when, in fact, as much as 30% of the content of these shoes are actually produced overseas using foreign labor. Beyond misleading customers, this goes against the regulations established by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) that companies can only label their products as “Made in USA” if they contain “no—or negligible—foreign content.”
That’s the crux of a new class action lawsuit against New Balance. The case, filed by five consumers, argues that the sneaker brand misleads customers by marketing many of its shoes as locally manufactured when, in fact, as much as 30% of the content of these shoes are actually produced overseas using foreign labor. Beyond misleading customers, this goes against the regulations established by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) that companies can only label their products as “Made in USA” if they contain “no—or negligible—foreign content.”
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:00 pm to Flats
Double post
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:00 pm to Flats
What does the ability to buy US made sneakers have with incentivizing companies to make sneakers in the US? The whole point is to create manufacturing jobs in the US. Whether or not a consumer can find a US made product is not the point. Surely you aren’t this obtuse.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:01 pm to Boss
They say clearly on the website the shoes are 70% made in the USA. That is far better than 100% made in Vietnam for the US employees of NB.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:06 pm to Drizzt
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What does the ability to buy US made sneakers have with incentivizing companies to make sneakers in the US?
I thought I was pretty clear but I'll say it again. People have US options right now, and they don't use them because they're expensive. We like the idea of "Made in the US" but it's an idea that shuts up and sits in the back seat when we take out our wallet.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:07 pm to Flats
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Because the Jordan brand demands a premium, not because of how and where they are made.
I bet the profit margin on a pair of chi-com Jordans would make a drug dealer blush.
Eh, probably not quite like what you might think, for several reasons:
- Basic manufacturing labor has become much, much, much more expensive in China over the last twenty years; still cheaper than in true developed countries but the arbitrage difference is much smaller than it used to be (hence why that kind of manufacturing has moved to Vietnam, Cambodia, Bangladesh, etc.)
- They actually generally are using more sophisticated manufacturing techniques than the base shite they might use for knock off stuff, so you're asking for premium manufacturing labor in a middle income or upper-middle income economy (definitely not cheap)
- Shipping and logistics
- More expensive packaging
- Marketing budgets out the arse for those lines
I would bet they still make good margins on premium lines (pretty much every premium retail brand except the complete screw ups has done well over the last 10 - 20 years) relative to the stuff that is more commoditized, but it's not similar to, say, Apple or TSMC or similar.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:23 pm to Penrod
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Obtuse, why do you think our ag imports are so low?
Because of the cost and logistics of getting fresh vegetables and fruits to Geneve. If the high tariffs were on grains and beans the argument makes sense.
I don't mind tariffs but why not actually present the numbers and your methodology don't just use trade balance numbers and call them something else. You simply can't support that Switzerland charges anything like an average of 61% on average as import duties (or any other imposition) for US goods.
The Swiss will likely abolish all tariffs to prevent the 31% tariffs from wrecking their watch industry et al, it will be touted as a success and the trade imbalance will not change because the tariffs were already minuscule, lower than what we charge on Swiss watches over $800 now for example. They will increase their subsidies to protect their Ag production just like we do.
Don't attack the whole world including uninhabited islands at one time. Triage the issues and fight the real economic threats first. China should be #1 through 10 on the list. Focus on them first and you could well get more help from the countries that are also being attacked. While our spending power is huge we still need allies for an international trade war.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:24 pm to Flats
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People have US options right now, and they don't use them because they're expensive.
So you are admitting that if the cheap imports were more expensive people would be more likely to buy US products? Welcome to the fold brother.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:29 pm to Breaux
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I’m a democrat because I don’t believe the qtard nonsense?
Trump, as the President, is the CIC just like Biden was during his term, Trump was not.
The tards believed he was during Biden’s term.
Say wut? I have no idea what you're even talking about..
Is this how crazy you people have gotten? What the hell are you watching that's telling you this stupid shite?
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:32 pm to _Hurricane_
Donnie put tariffs on an island inhabited only by penguins. Total insanity.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 5:45 pm to AGGIES
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so it’s not going to be easier for the countries to just stop selling goods to US customers.
I never said they should...just drop the tariffs and we drop ours.
That's it...they lose less that way.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 5:46 pm to Stonehenge
quote:. Stout thinks it was brilliant. The cult agrees regardless of how retarded it was
Donnie put tariffs on an island inhabited only by penguins. Total insanity.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 5:48 pm to Drizzt
They only said that as a result of the lawsuit.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 8:21 pm to i am dan
Have you met Vox and his tards?
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